2024 Draft Thread

[bullus_hit]

Pick 6 is cursed I tells ya - cursed!!!!

But it will become lucky 7.

 

[fastin bulbous]

Just one other thing on Hotton, he did his knee at training, just simply making a change of direction. A complete rupture. Not partial. That's not good.

As someone who has done 2 ACL's and had countless surgeries, MRI's, consults -all with the big name AFL surgeons and with my doctor as well who is a 12 year head doctor at a large AFL club (and sat in on some of my surgeries) - I can tell you that doing your knee that way is a worse way than getting a knock or someone falling across your leg. The reason being that suspicions start to rise that there is some sort of natural laxity in the joint v a blunt force causing the injury ie unlucky.

And I use the word "suspicions" because surgeons ultimately can not tell. MRI's and scopes will only look at the structure of things. You can't test or investigate for full load stress through your knee in the operating theatre or in the surgeons office. Only the individual themselves can do that, and even then, it's got to be over time and with repetition.

Every surgeon or specialist will tell you they did a perfect job and that structurally everything looks great. But not one of them will guarantee that you won't do it again or even that you are of minimal risk of doing it again. In fact, just 12 months ago my current surgeon (guy who is seen as the man by AFL clubs currently) said the knee is very complex and vague in many respects. Even MRI's only pick up structurally complete evaluations about 80% of the time. I've been victim of that - endless MRI's that show nothing, only to have a scope that pulls out multiple bone and cartilage fragments.

The good news for Hotton though, is that he did not damage his MCL or meniscus. That's good. Also good (perhaps) is that his revision surgery was for removal of excess scar tissue which indicates solid healing. Again, I've had that same excess scar tissue removed. It's a painful annoyance, but good in the sense of healed repair work.

But nobody...nobody... should expect any specialist can guarantee or even say that there's little chance of further issues. They can only talk to the structure of things.

Marty did his acl during this recording but KEPT PLAYING

 

[turk-d-tiger]

Who do you take at 7? I think pick 6 is much better placed to land Langford, Smith or Tauru. I agree with the rest however, we can still do damage with those later picks, that's the region for talls and there's a few this year.

I really cant see smith lasting to our pick #6 and we wil[ be facing a choice between Reid , Smillie , Tauru , Armstrong and Allan

I see Noth as a bottom 5-6 team next year so their F1 is appealing to me for some picks in 2025

I would do 6 and 11 for 2 and F1 and that gives us the choice of 2 of FOS , Jagga , Lalaor as well as 2 top 5 picks next year

 

[bullus_hit]

I really cant see smith lasting to our pick #6 and we wil[ be facing a choice between Reid , Smillie , Tauru , Armstrong and Allan

I see Noth as a bottom 5-6 team next year so their F1 is appealing to me for some picks in 2025

I would do 6 and 11 for 2 and F1 and that gives us the choice of 2 of FOS , Jagga , Lalaor as well as 2 top 5 picks next year

If Carlton take Smillie then someone drops, unless Adelaide ignore Draper. I reckon by draft time there will be more clarity but 6 is still Tauru, that's a strong card to hold. I think we need to squeeze North here because holding our picks doesn't really hurt in the slightest.

 

[mrposhman]

Who do you take at 7? I think pick 6 is much better placed to land Langford, Smith or Tauru. I agree with the rest however, we can still do damage with those later picks, that's the region for talls and there's a few this year.

North would likely take Tauru at 6, it wouldn't make much difference to us if our plan was 3 mids with our 1st 3. Lalor - 1, FOS - 2 then 1 of Langford, Smith or Draper whoever is left at 7, maybe even Lindsay.

Personally I don't think we take Smillie, reckon thats smoke and mirrors

 

[mrposhman]

If Carlton take Smillie then someone drops, unless Adelaide ignore Draper. I reckon by draft time there will be more clarity but 6 is still Tauru, that's a strong card to hold. I think we need to squeeze North here because holding our picks doesn't really hurt in the slightest.

I reckon 1 of Smith or Langford will be there.

1 - Lalor
2 - FOS
3 - Langford / Draper
4 - Langford / Smith / Draper
5 - Lindsay
6 - Tauru
7 - Langford / Smith / Draper

Its why if we do the North deal, we probably need to do the Saints deal too. Then we lock in 3 key mids, to add to probably Dyson Sharp next year. Theres our 4 key mids for the next 10 years.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Did all the players (TWSITG) have the long weekend away? Did they let each other think on it?

Pre draft night business closes on Friday. If there is a little pause in business a bright young thing should come back early and try to upset the apple cart. Thursfield would see himself as a bright young thing. And bright old things know that.

Did Blair change his voicemail to "You've reached Blair's message bank. We'll bid on Tauru."

All the shenanigans are around #2 atm.

 

[yeahnomaybe]

Imagine how he'd react to Andy Maher conducting an interview.

Bravo Bravo

 

[bullus_hit]

I reckon 1 of Smith or Langford will be there.

1 - Lalor
2 - FOS
3 - Langford / Draper
4 - Langford / Smith / Draper
5 - Lindsay
6 - Tauru
7 - Langford / Smith / Draper

Its why if we do the North deal, we probably need to do the Saints deal too. Then we lock in 3 key mids, to add to probably Dyson Sharp next year. Theres our 4 key mids for the next 10 years.

So word on the street is Melbourne will take Lindsay at 5? That's helpful to our cause but I would prefer Langford or Smith over Draper. If it's a choice bewteen Draper or Tauru then I take the latter, I think Draper is in the second tier with Smillie & Allan.

 

[Dyer'ere]

So word on the street is Melbourne will take Lindsay at 5? That's helpful to our cause but I would prefer Langford or Smith over Draper. If it's a choice bewteen Draper or Tauru then I take the latter, I think Draper is in the second tier with Smillie & Allan.

That sounds logical to me, Bully. MFC and StK both linked to Lindsay.

 

[Dyer'ere]

There are 100? posters and 200? viewers of this thread. Who wouldn't take Lindsay at 10? Everybody would take him.

At 9? 8? Are we at #5 yet?

Lindsay wins contests. Lindsay runs towards goal, uses towards goal. Lindsay breaks lines. Smart in position. Smart with the ball. Can defend. Everybody wants Lindsay.

Is #5 too early? Or is Taylor potting the next raft of stocks?

We've all been waiting for Lindsay to emerge.

 

[Dyer'ere]

There's another one who everybody wants. Maybe two. Jack Whitlock at #18. Probably not. He'll heat up. 11-14? Maybe.

Matt? 25? Dunno. Three after Jack. Are we at 14 yet? That could happen. The Whitlocks may heat up. Is every reader of this thread planning to take a Whitlock?

Maybe TWSITG will see it that way. I think they will.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Once we unhook Smith from ADEL he can get to #9. And then #9 is hot, hot, hot. You want that pick.

 

[Dyer'ere]

If you're Taylor all your scenarios are about who can pay for #9.

We should get it.

 

[Dyer'ere]

This game has never been played before. It's the ultimate paperclip into a house trade opportunity.

There is no history.

It's Big Blue chess scenario stuff. But the rules are not chess.

There has never been a better time to have a Poirot avatar.



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[Dyer'ere]

Lalor
FOS
Dunno and that fouls everything. Draper? Langford?
Langford. Draper?
Lindsay
Tauru
Smillie

 

[Dyer'ere]

Does SOS take Armstrong?

 

[Dyer'ere]

Suppose Thursfield trades #2 to our enemies. For say 7+32 and a 2025R1. It looks like only St Kilda can play.

And SOS wants to play. 2025R1 =7 atm. Thursfield does that business. Straight up does it.

And then Blair has to say he'll take Tauru.

Hey. Is SOS hostile? Like, to RFC? How will that work out?

As a process of elimination it's like Cluedo as Green Datsun has said. But this is very much more like a game of 500 when we count cards.

 

[Little Ziggyadee]

Let's just hold our picks
Its not like we nail drafts.
So the more picks the better,

 

[Scoop]

There are 100? posters and 200? viewers of this thread. Who wouldn't take Lindsay at 10? Everybody would take him.

At 9? 8? Are we at #5 yet?

Lindsay wins contests. Lindsay runs towards goal, uses towards goal. Lindsay breaks lines. Smart in position. Smart with the ball. Can defend. Everybody wants Lindsay.

Is #5 too early? Or is Taylor potting the next raft of stocks?

We've all been waiting for Lindsay to emerge.

It’s got a Caleb Windsor like rise. I believe the 5. And if I’m St Kilda I’m praying he is there with the two picks.