Most if not all recruiters obviously value u18 form stats ,but it's no where near as valued as ability upside, weapons at afl level,this is where Jagga drops some what as he's number 1 with stats but drops in other considerations.
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Smillie, an Essendon fan, likes the sound of joining the Tigers’ rebuild at effectively ground zero.
Jagga is looking like value at 6 rrrrarrrrThere's a mock draft right here
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FOS taken at #4
Sleeping near dates. What a weirdo.Not sure illl get much sleep near the date
I'm trying to work out whether to do a daily or weekly countdown...... Conundrums.... Or every second day hmmmmNot sure illl get much sleep near the date
The Port/GWS/North trade sounds like it would be a complicated one. I've come up with:
Rich - Give 10 & 11; Get 2
PA - Give 13 & 29; Get 10 & F2/3
GWS - Give 16 & 21; Get 11 & 29
NM - Give 2 & F2/3; Get 13, 16 & 21
North then trade two of those picks for Saints' 7 or 8. Saints can't be involved in the original trade as their purportedly making their own bid for Pick 2.
Not sure if I like this trade - what do others think?
Alternatively, being a fan site it is my duty to propose:
Rich - Give 10, F2 & F4; Get 2, 13, 16, maybe a couple of F1s
PA, GWS & NM - who cares?
Rich - Give 10 & 11; Get 2
PA - Give 13 & 29; Get 10 & F2/3
GWS - Give 16 & 21; Get 11 & 29
NM - Give 2 & F2/3; Get 13, 16 & 21
North then trade two of those picks for Saints' 7 or 8. Saints can't be involved in the original trade as their purportedly making their own bid for Pick 2.
Not sure if I like this trade - what do others think?
Alternatively, being a fan site it is my duty to propose:
Rich - Give 10, F2 & F4; Get 2, 13, 16, maybe a couple of F1s
PA, GWS & NM - who cares?
And those projections of "upside" are just projections as well. And are often found to be incorrect in time.
That's the beauty of recruiting. The answer isn't known for a number of years.
Thanks for pasting article on hereBut if no one can open it...
Why top draft prospect went on a media ban after meeting Patrick Cripps
ByMarc McGowan
October 31, 2024 — 5.00am
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Josh Smillie heard, and read, it all.
As a 195-centimetre midfielder who thrives on physicality, Smillie swiftly earned the tag of “Patrick Cripps 2.0” – and entered this year considered a leading chance to be the AFL’s No.1 draft pick.
Patrick Cripps clone Josh Smillie is one of this year’s top AFL draft prospects.Credit:AFL Photos
The 18-year-old Park Orchards junior, who models his game on Cripps, even shares the same agent – TGI Sport’s Matt Bain – as Carlton’s dual Brownlow medallist.
That connection led to a meeting with Cripps that transformed his mindset, after a self-confessed “up-and-down” season where he missed All-Australian under-18 selection and fell short of the mighty expectations placed upon him.
“Definitely early on, I was all over what was being written about me. I think every boy was,” Smillie told this masthead ahead of next month’s draft.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...or-this-year-s-afl-draft-20241024-p5kkzm.html
“You see your name in things, and it’s hard because family and friends are very invested in everything I do, which I’m very grateful for. I might be in the paper one day, and my nan prints it out, and she’s very proud.
“But I’ve come a long way from where I was at the start of the year. I couldn’t remember the last time I saw anything about myself because I hate it. I feel better not worrying about what people think of me ... it sounds weird, but I’m probably two, three or four months dry of not reading [about myself].”
Smillie (pronounced “Smiley”) credits Cripps for many of those changes, which go beyond just avoiding the media coverage his football achievements increasingly attract.
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He took a notepad with him that day, then scribbled the Blues captain’s words of wisdom onto the whiteboard in his bedroom that he reads every morning when he wakes.
“It was pretty surreal, and we clicked straight away,” Smillie said.
“I was just being myself, asking honest questions about how he goes through everything; just the pressure pieces, how he still enjoys footy – all the little things. He was unbelievably great to me, giving me so much advice ... I was pretty lucky to get that opportunity because a lot of people don’t get to meet their heroes.”
Smillie might no longer be in the No.1 pick discussion, but there remains plenty of intrigue and optimism about what he could become.
One recruiter who spoke to this masthead even used Lance Franklin’s draft year as a comparison, saying a player’s potential is often every bit as important as their performances.
Smillie’s draft peer Jagga Smith, a fellow midfielder, even chose him as the player he would select with the first pick, on the same logic as the talent scout.
Josh Smillie, pictured at the AFL draft combine, is one of the most promising players in the 2024 crop.Credit:Getty Images
“When he’s at his best, I think Josh Smillie is the best player in the draft. It’s his ceiling, and what he could be,” Smith said.
Richmond, who have an extraordinary seven first-round draft picks this year after agreeing to trade Daniel Rioli, Shai Bolton and Liam Baker, are among the clubs most interested in Smillie.
Tigers list boss Blair Hartley coaches at Park Orchards, where his son plays, and lives only a few minutes from Smillie, although they didn’t know each other that well until Richmond’s recruiting team interviewed him.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...b-s-key-2025-free-agents-20241028-p5klui.html
Smillie, an Essendon fan, likes the sound of joining the Tigers’ rebuild at effectively ground zero.
“I’d want to walk straight into the club and [make an impact] from day one,” he said.
“I’m a very determined player, and I want the best for myself and everyone around me … just because we’re 18 years of age, it doesn’t mean we can’t change anything.”
Smillie averaged almost 26 disposals and five clearances, plus 1.3 goals, for Eastern Ranges this past season. His numbers were less gaudy at the national under-18 championships, but he still racked up nearly six clearances and seven score involvements per game.
It was about that time, mid-year that recruiters started nitpicking Smillie more, questioning his running capacity and ability below his knees – and some even suggested he might be better at half-back.
“It’s been an up-and-down year, and now that I’m finished playing, I reflect on it and all the things I’ve done well and what I can improve on,” he said.
“But if I was thinking about where I was last year [compared to now], I’d be very proud of myself. There have been some challenges along the way, but I’m pretty proud of the way I’ve gone about it.
“It’s been a real learning curve for me, and I’m proud of my determination and how hard I’ve worked at training.”
Smillie is still tipped to be a top-10 selection – and if not, he won’t last much beyond that – but he will be thrilled just to be on an AFL list on November 20, whether it is at the Tigers, Bombers or another club.
“I think what separates me is my uniqueness of being a tall midfielder and pretty versatile,” he said.
“But at the end of the day, the pick’s just a number and whichever club picks me up, I’ll be happy. It’s been a dream to play in the AFL ever since I was a kid, so to sort of be living it right now is pretty awesome.”
Why top draft prospect went on a media ban after meeting Patrick Cripps
Top-10 draft contender Josh Smillie is considered the second coming of Carton’s dual Brownlow medallist Patrick Cripps, but not everything has gone to plan in his final year of underage football.www.theage.com.au
Couldn’t see it no complimentary article for me
That's actually pretty good Monk.
Only one the looks to "lose" is Port. By all reports they are looking to split 13 to get more picks this year, not less.
Bloody good effort though.
10 & 18 for 2 & F2 Is not going to happen as why would North disadvantage themselves by so much?
It's a bigger if than me winning Tatts.
I'm assuming their F2 is 28 and they would be short overall by a pick 24.
10 AND 18 for 2 and they're still losing by pick 61.
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You may have changed your name, but you are still obsessed with points value.
You make the assumption that there is nothing in it for North to trade back other than gaining points value for their Pick 2, which is incorrect.
not on that deal as it's just unrealistic . The second deal i showed would be the closer option to reality. There is absolutely no gain for them doing that deal . People are unrealistic and this happened before the trade period what people were blowing out of their arses for Rioli, Bolton and Baker and then add the crap for the JGTI FA expectations. Then when the normal closer to reality surfaces then everyone will change and hale Blair the King although the obvious took place. I'm obsessed with points bc it's a benchmark which puts us closer to reality if used correctly.
The thing is, neither of those deals will happen though. To give up 2, North want Tauru or potentially they may be ok to get Armstrong as a backup. They will need a pick higher than 10 to get them, so there is nothing in it for them.
As others have said repeatedly on here, if North trade for 2, then 6 will have to be included. I can't see any other way to get it regardless of points values, because frankly, they don't care about points values. It does give a benchmark, but its not the driving reason to do any trade, so isn't the primary method to assess value for any trade.
Not sure why we would need to be involved in a 4 way trade on that basis. We are just swapping 10 and 11 for 2, the giants, port and north can work out the rest. We wouldn’t need to be in discussions with the other clubs
I don’t think that is it. My view is that if we are are willing to swap 10 and 11 out we want something else back apart from just pick 2.
Once again points mean nothing Brisbane's pick 20 was worth 985 points Richmond gave up 1,700 points to get it.
