2022 - March to the finals

[Aegean Tiger]

This all goes back to the list management decisions last October.
Lambert shouldve retired.
Not sure why they decided besides being bullied by the media to change captain.
And the selection of Grimes & Nakas would go down as an awful decision now. Both have had horrendous years.
The false information coming from the club during the summer 'we couldn't be happier with our preseason" '1st full preseason in a long time' etc. It was all bullshiit.
We started the season on half a tank.
We couldn't run out games, we looked like we were running in concrete.
The writing was on the wall from round 1.
The loss to stkilda was the start of the 'season of capitulation".
It brought back memories from 1987 when we leading at 3qtr time against WC, Collingwood & Sydney and we lost all those games.
The club had options.
Houli & Astbury retired. We couldve added another midfielder with 1 pick but they decided 5 picks under 30 wouldn't effect our chances.
Winning clearances/centre Clearances is properly the most important stat today.
I personally believe we have lost an opportunity to bag another flag on the back of our decision making regarding our list.
How bad is it now that Dow & Collier dawkins will most likely join the long list of dud 1st rounders.
For a club that has been soo successful it still has a underbelly of poor decision making.
You need to add every single year.

Much truth in that rant Z.

Caddy Edwards and Lambert should all have been taken off the books. Staged retirements. Replenish and renew while creating greater scope to address key area of need in the guts.

Many punters on the street saw this but I suspect that hubris unfortunately blinded those that were entrusted with making the necessary decisions.

 

[Eddie from Elwood]

This morning I’m very disappointed with what might have been. Having people going with the Richmondy label *smile* me to no end. It’s like after how good we have been they can’t wait to stick the knife in or have a laugh at our expense.
I don’t think we can win every game to make it. So maybe it worth giving a few of the younger boys a run.
Get Titch to 300 and then play Brown and Banks . It may even help us at the draft table if a few teams pass us.

People stuck the knife in before, while and it will continue after our success, we're a big club that has been the butt of others jokes forever..........what they can't take away, is we stuck it so far up them for 4-5 years, so really, the joke is on them!

 

[RoarEmotion]

Much truth in that rant Z.

Caddy Edwards and Lambert should all have been taken off the books. Staged retirements. Replenish and renew while creating greater scope to address key area of need in the guts.

Many punters on the street saw this but I suspect that hubris unfortunately blinded those that were entrusted with making the necessary decisions.

Is this true?

We’ve had 5ND picks and 1 mid season.

I’m not sure we could have really brought much else in (talent wise) as would have been back end of the draft and are more dealing with a lot of blokes hitting retirement at the same stage.

Who knows if maybe we had to talk some into playing longer?

I think for any new player 2 years is the minimum so we may have blocked what we can do this year if we took too many last year.

I’d imagine as a club we’ve decided doing too many changes or too little changes causes a lot of problems with salary cap management and list profile so have kept it to a reasonable amount of changes per year. Rateability would have a value for sure so you avoid the Collingwood and gws scenarios with too many players at peak pay at same time - an issue you create 5-7 years earlier.

 

[Dev Tiger]

The reality is there probably won't be that many delistings after the retirements. We traded out our third and fourth round picks this year so we will probably only use the three picks we have unless we take fifth and sixth round picks. Most of the kids will get another year.

 

[OldTiger1967]

Should St Kilda win today we will be 10th. To make the finals the players will have to show real character, determination and old-fashioned grit over the next 6 weeks. I believe this group has got that but I fear our onfield leadership may take it too far and give up too many free kicks.

Whatever the 2022 result for Richmond, the season maybe the turning point in character building for many of our players and coaches.

The turning point for the new younger players to understand the attributes needed to win close tough hard games.

The turning point for the older players to realise they have/have not got another season in them.

The turning point for our coaches to realise they need a change or to change the Richmond game plan to suit the current crop of players and those terrible new rules.......

The next 4 weeks will be enthralling from a club growth perspective......

 

[daniel30]

This all goes back to the list management decisions last October.
Lambert shouldve retired.
Not sure why they decided besides being bullied by the media to change captain.
And the selection of Grimes & Nakas would go down as an awful decision now. Both have had horrendous years.
The false information coming from the club during the summer 'we couldn't be happier with our preseason" '1st full preseason in a long time' etc. It was all bullshiit.
We started the season on half a tank.
We couldn't run out games, we looked like we were running in concrete.
The writing was on the wall from round 1.
The loss to stkilda was the start of the 'season of capitulation".
It brought back memories from 1987 when we leading at 3qtr time against WC, Collingwood & Sydney and we lost all those games.
The club had options.
Houli & Astbury retired. We couldve added another midfielder with 1 pick but they decided 5 picks under 30 wouldn't effect our chances.
Winning clearances/centre Clearances is properly the most important stat today.
I personally believe we have lost an opportunity to bag another flag on the back of our decision making regarding our list.
How bad is it now that Dow & Collier dawkins will most likely join the long list of dud 1st rounders.
For a club that has been soo successful it still has a underbelly of poor decision making.
You need to add every single year.

You make some great points , but for me as I mentioned since that cat's game we through our season away no excuses in world we got to blame all in winnable positions pure stupidity.

 

[daniel30]

our best bet is winning our next three on the MCG

Hope freo and Geel beat bulldogs
Hope syd and bris beat saints

No confidence in us beating port away

That's the problem at the moment we can't even back us to beat a spoon side no confidence at all and people worried about other teams doing as a favour.

 

[Smoking Aces]

Destiny is no longer in our hands.

 

[daniel30]

Same! Plenty of premiership signs right now.

I'm bullish about our chances this year, especially after seeing how impenetrable the defence was against a top 4 team this weekend.

A few coin toss finishes in a heavy training load mean nothing,

We look like the best team in the AFL a month out from finals.

We haven't been out played since early in the season (like in the premiership years).

We lost 3 close games in mid-2017 and it only steeled us come September.

Plus we've got Dusty and Lynch returning, Cotchin looking fiery, Tarrant approaching Rance-like form, and multiple kids breathing new life into the side (while looking dangerous).

A bit of fitness and luck and nothing will stop us in September. Who cares if we finish 8th? We can beat 5th en route to the next final. And we can beat whomever they put in front of us for week 2.

We have no confidence at all we look scared and timid thats the difference from other year and our best players are in the worse of form.

 

[seven]

Unable to run out the season.
This is when we go up a gear but we are not doing that.
Something wrong with our fitness

 

[Ridley]

We have no confidence at all we look scared and timid thats the difference from other year and our best players are in the worse of form.

Yep the confident strut of our premiership years is gone. In those years you always felt we had the ability to pull out a win from anywhere.

Now it seems none of our players have the capacity to grab a game by the nuts and drag us over the line. The aura is gone.

 

[Eddie from Elwood]

Yep the confident strut of our premiership years is gone. In those years you always felt we had the ability to pull out a win from anywhere.

Now it seems none of our players have the capacity to grab a game by the nuts and drag us over the line. The aura is gone.

Yes and no.........Baker can, I think Broady can, but he's a defender, so it's a little harder. Nank and Grimma can, but are broken and out of form......It'd be awesome if Shai was a talisman like Dusty, but he's just a freak like Dusty. Cotch and Jack probably believe they want to, but ultimately I think their bellies are full......especially Cotch's.

 

[Tigerfan]

That's the problem at the moment we can't even back us to beat a spoon side no confidence at all and people worried about other teams doing as a favour.

North didn’t beat us
Marvel did
And I’ve got no idea why

 

[tigertime2]

Be extremely difficult to make the 8

 

[Little Ziggyadee]

Be extremely difficult to make the 8

Where not making the 8.
Our hopes of winning a flag this year went down the drain at the list management meeting last October.
Came into a Season half cooked after a full preseason. So many players under done.
Our best player away dealing with personal issues.
In excusable coming into this season so under done

 

[tigerman]

Yep the confident strut of our premiership years is gone. In those years you always felt we had the ability to pull out a win from anywhere.

Now it seems none of our players have the capacity to grab a game by the nuts and drag us over the line. The aura is gone.

In our premiership years i was always confident that Dusty could/would get us over the line.

If we can somehow make the finals, with Dusty coming back into the side about then, I wouldn't put it past him and Shai giving is some showtime, and putting the other pretenders to the sword.

 

[DavidSSS]

There are many factors at play here.

Clearly, we should have won more games, we really have stuffed up on that score. GC, Sydney, Adelaide, Rd 1 Carlton, just a few we should not have lost. The North game they were better most of the night so less of a certain win.

But I am currently watching the Collingwood v Essendon game and the difference between the teams really sticks out in 1 area: skills. Both Essendon and Collingwood are able to put a lot of pressure on the ball carrier. But when Collingwood dispose of the ball with, for example, a handpass out of congestion, it is in front of their team mate who is running forward. Essendon, handpasses straight at the player (making them static) or even just behind the player (they have to double back). This is something Richmond have lost, we no longer seem to be able to pass to advantage and it means our players are at a disadvantage when receiving the ball. We really need to improve our skill levels under pressure, it is a fine line but essential at this level of the game.

DS

 

[artball]

we will limp into the finals and then win the cup

 

[Tigerfan]

If we had different results

GC -2 (Castagna smother)
Nth -4 (Aarts play on)
Freo - draw (Cumberland play on)

We’d be 4th
And we were missing Ross Lambert lynch Dusty

 

[Tigers2020]

We are a better team than we give ourselves credit for and dogs are basically guaranteed to lose one of their next 2 games. The formula is simple: 4 wins and play finals and the real season begins in September

Edit: St Kilda are no chance of playing finals. They peaked 2 months ago