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Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again
Not sure that Woosha could have simply 'nipped it in the bud'. It is obviously not that simple. Cousins wouldn't stop simply because Woosha asked him to. IN fact Cousins has a history of telling people to eff off when questioned. Madcow is likely to be right, with the sniff of a flag they were more willing to believe his lies.
From Woosha's interview, in fairness to him he seemed to be implying that neither he, nor the club were actually equipped or able to handle the player/drugs situation.
Those claiming that Cousins was playing in an enhanced state due to whatever he was taking are IMO wrong. Unless his entire career has been enhanced from day 1 as he has been a fine player for a long time.
evo said:
Not sure that Woosha could have simply 'nipped it in the bud'. It is obviously not that simple. Cousins wouldn't stop simply because Woosha asked him to. IN fact Cousins has a history of telling people to eff off when questioned. Madcow is likely to be right, with the sniff of a flag they were more willing to believe his lies.
From Woosha's interview, in fairness to him he seemed to be implying that neither he, nor the club were actually equipped or able to handle the player/drugs situation.
Those claiming that Cousins was playing in an enhanced state due to whatever he was taking are IMO wrong. Unless his entire career has been enhanced from day 1 as he has been a fine player for a long time.
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again
If anyone doubts his ability check out a replay of the Geel v WC game at Skilled last year. Geel were miles in front and Cousins kept running and running and the Coasters wore them down and won in the end.
Cousins' game that day was freakish. Absolutely top drawer!
If anyone doubts his ability check out a replay of the Geel v WC game at Skilled last year. Geel were miles in front and Cousins kept running and running and the Coasters wore them down and won in the end.
Cousins' game that day was freakish. Absolutely top drawer!
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again
Without doubt Redders. Almost implied that if they were informed after the first strike, they could begin a rehabilitation process. Though others here have expressed that the parents shouldn't be told - I disagree. Family support is critical to rehabilitation. IMO any player who gets one strike wouldn't be that fussed - it would only be after two that they may consider curbing their ways. After all, there is a fair chance that in one calendar year they won't get tested - as evidenced by many of the captains comments yesterday.
Redford said:
Without doubt Redders. Almost implied that if they were informed after the first strike, they could begin a rehabilitation process. Though others here have expressed that the parents shouldn't be told - I disagree. Family support is critical to rehabilitation. IMO any player who gets one strike wouldn't be that fussed - it would only be after two that they may consider curbing their ways. After all, there is a fair chance that in one calendar year they won't get tested - as evidenced by many of the captains comments yesterday.
Is that being reported as a change in AFL policy Andy - or is someone simply spilling the beans?Anduril said:
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again
Like we dont already know who they are.
Actually depends how many, most of us know the 3 original one's, has their been more?
Anduril said:
Like we dont already know who they are.
Actually depends how many, most of us know the 3 original one's, has their been more?
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again
How is this possible? Wasn't there some court ruling saying they couldn't?
Anduril said:
How is this possible? Wasn't there some court ruling saying they couldn't?
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again
If you ask Benny to stop and he doesn't,well then you have to take more drastic measures,surely.
Would you defend terry if he didn't do his utmost to try and get one of our players from heading down a dark path.Premiership aspirations or not.
Woosha seems to be getting out of this pretty cheaply(so far) IMO.
yeah,well he's going to say that isn't he.It's everyone elses fault but his.When in doubt blame the AFL.jb03 said:
If you ask Benny to stop and he doesn't,well then you have to take more drastic measures,surely.
Would you defend terry if he didn't do his utmost to try and get one of our players from heading down a dark path.Premiership aspirations or not.
Woosha seems to be getting out of this pretty cheaply(so far) IMO.
Bennnny
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Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again
The West Coast people would have had to have known about his issues for years.
His inappropriate friends, phonr calls etc.
Very few people run from a booze bus, but a booze and drug bus (as I believe they have in Perth) may be different.
I'm sure everybody except the Weagles management would surmise why Cuz did the triathlon.
At that stage he should have been suspended by the club.
The club use Cuz as a spiritual leader. The younger players would see what goes on so they follow the leader.
One of the things about cocaine is that it makes you feel invulnerable and that you know best. Recognise that in Cuz?
We love our footy heroes and in most cases forgive them their failures.
Clubs know what goes on, and in these days of the internet and digital cameras footballers can't get away with so much. The club has a duty of care to its employees and it must ensure that they get educated abiut all things in life.
By nipping the problem in the bud, the club may have taken pain at the time but sorted a lot of future problems. Sure they got a premiership, but the long term harm done to the brand could be very costly.
The West Coast people would have had to have known about his issues for years.
His inappropriate friends, phonr calls etc.
Very few people run from a booze bus, but a booze and drug bus (as I believe they have in Perth) may be different.
I'm sure everybody except the Weagles management would surmise why Cuz did the triathlon.
At that stage he should have been suspended by the club.
The club use Cuz as a spiritual leader. The younger players would see what goes on so they follow the leader.
One of the things about cocaine is that it makes you feel invulnerable and that you know best. Recognise that in Cuz?
We love our footy heroes and in most cases forgive them their failures.
Clubs know what goes on, and in these days of the internet and digital cameras footballers can't get away with so much. The club has a duty of care to its employees and it must ensure that they get educated abiut all things in life.
By nipping the problem in the bud, the club may have taken pain at the time but sorted a lot of future problems. Sure they got a premiership, but the long term harm done to the brand could be very costly.
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again
Absolutely.
This behaviour goes back a lot further than July.
Simply put the Weagles administration appear to have swept the Cousins situation(and others) under the carpet in the name of success for a long time.
Clearly far earlier intervention was required. Winning a flag has been the priority over player welfare in this case.
Aah the trappings of professional sport.
Bennnny said:
Absolutely.
This behaviour goes back a lot further than July.
Simply put the Weagles administration appear to have swept the Cousins situation(and others) under the carpet in the name of success for a long time.
Clearly far earlier intervention was required. Winning a flag has been the priority over player welfare in this case.
Aah the trappings of professional sport.
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again
To add to that I've had a friend who had a 'substance abuse problem' and you can tell in an instant when they've been using if you know the signs.
So to claim you were unaware is just a straight out load of bollocks.
I just hope none of our players are in the two strike zone if names are indeed to be published.
To add to that I've had a friend who had a 'substance abuse problem' and you can tell in an instant when they've been using if you know the signs.
So to claim you were unaware is just a straight out load of bollocks.
I just hope none of our players are in the two strike zone if names are indeed to be published.
