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10,000,000 Cousins threads [Merged]
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rosy23 said:
yeah i'm getting into the BC feelgood vibe myself lately
But i agree with Rosy that there are other factors to be excited about
Coughlan's return; the recruiting of thommo and Hislop
not to mention new recruits Poster and vickers and the rookies
Also Jacko and Whitey are tearing up the tan
Polak's rehab
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on the down side: Cotch and Connors missing part of pre-season
DirtyDogTiger said:
But nobody is saying there AREN'T other factors to get excited about!
Just that Benny has probably been a highly successful move atm and so far all the doomsday theories about him holding our kids down and infecting our culture with disease were way over the top.
The Cousins recruitment is all positive and there is very low risk for negatives to come out of it IMO.
It was a big win, and that was the point of my post that I think sparked the last 2 pages of debate. Some posters are having a harder time seeing this because it means they have to do a large backflip on their pre-Cousins comments.
benny_furs said:
We haven't even played the first NAB cup match!!! if the "doomsdayers" had thought he could cause the problems this early in his career at Punt Road, there'd have been many more turning up to the ground that night before the draft demanding he stay away.
The RBR Lovers, Ben and the RFC are still very much in honeymoon mode. let's hope the honeymoon is a couple of years long for everyones sake but to claim all the concerns were unfounded because by Jan 20th nothing bad as happened is ridiculous.
Well I for one, was one of those who was not an advocate for us taking Benny however I am at the moment happy to eat my humble pie and say all the vibes have been positive. However I am not yet counting the chickens before they hatch.
Lets just all hope that Ben can produce the fairytale we are all hoping for.
I will be very happy to eat some more humble pie if that happens.
One thing I do know, and that is Ben Cousins will wear the Yellow and Black and I will support him all the way now.
Lets just all hope that Ben can produce the fairytale we are all hoping for.
I will be very happy to eat some more humble pie if that happens.
One thing I do know, and that is Ben Cousins will wear the Yellow and Black and I will support him all the way now.
gustiger12 said:
I too was very sceptical about getting Ben Cousins but like gus I hope I'm eating big serves of humble pie by seasons end.
Although I wouldn't go as far as letting my boys have number 32 on their backs, they can stick with number 12 for now
gustiger12 said:
Good to see you back and posting Gus.
Eating, pies, chickens and more pies, just what are you really trying to say ;D
Reckon I'll join you in that serve of pie if and when it's appropriate.gustiger12 said:
Until then I think I can avoid wetting the knickers with excitement.
Baloo said:
I never said they were unfounded. Just over the top.
Ben was never going to ruin our club. He has the power to help us by a decent amount, but he doesn't have the power to ruin us as some claimed. Remember that people opposed his recruitment on varying levels, so I'm not referring to some people anyway.
A lot of people are willing to accept humble pie, that's nice to see and it's great we have posters on here willing to re-evaluate their views. Personally I can't foresee Ben Cousins causing a great deal of negativity for our club in any way. My biggest fear is if he keeps getting injured, the entire drug issue is not much of a worry for me. It may cause a distraction if it happened during the season, but that is the only potential negative impact it would have.
Sponsors aren't going to jump off, members aren't going to stop going to games and our reputation will only be strengthened.
Large positive reward with risk for small negatives.
It was a great decision to recruit this Champion, Brownlow winning, Premiership leading football hero to our club
Good work Kev - you were right on the money (which is growing by the truck load).
benny_furs said:
But how can you categorically claim that they were way over the top when Ben's only been with us for 3 weeks ? Give the man some time to settle in and then lets see what the impact is. Hopefully good. I'm also another that will gladly eat humble pie if I was wrong, but it's way too early to call it now.
In saying all that I think the claims made by the Benny Brightsiders are just as over the top.
1. He's going to attract bigger sponsors: - Nope, not yet anyway
2. He's going to teach the kids what it takes to train like a champion: - We'll see how we go this year
3. Membership Numbers will skyrocket: - I think there is only a couple thousand difference between this time last year and this year. Still 15k behind Hawthorn.
Now, a lot of what the RBRBs (RBR Brightsiders) may come true, but again, it's way too early to call it yet.
rosy23 said:
19/1/09
Match-day - 18,379
Non Match-day - 5,191
Total - 23,570
These figures certainly show an increase of 4,000 members.
Also I certainly dont think it is the club that is playing the Cousins card. It is more so the media. I am sure it wasn't Cogs who initiated the discussion on Cousins in his media interview yesterday!
WesternTiger said:
Yes but those figures weren't available when I asked benny where he got his info if you check the dates. I wasn't disputing the fact, I was merely interested where the figures came from.
WesternTiger said:
I don't see how you can make that claim. 11 of the 19 most recent articles on the RFC site are about Ben. (it's possible some of the others mention him too) That's over half of the recent articles about one player when we have 40 players, give or take a few, on our list. They're mostly written by micullen, a writer for the RFC. Add to that the fact the club gives permission for players to be interviewed, and what about, at training and I think it's fair to think they are happy to play "the Cousins card" as you put it.
rosy23 said:
Not sure about playing the Cousins card since training has resumed since the break. Mark Coughaln was in front of the TV cameras on Tuesday talking about his comeback, Brett Deledio was on SEN this morning, Trent Cotchin is on Mark Doran's show today, Chris Newman was on 3AW last week, Terry Wallace did a detailed piece on 927. And Ben Cousins has not done another media piece since the interview before Christmas. I think the club put Ben front and centre when it was required and almost demanded by the public and the media after his first session and since then it has been all about getting him right for Round 1. Cannot ask for much more then that. So far the club has played it perfectly in putting Ben front and centre and cashing in on the amazingly positive publicity hype that he has created while still working towards getting him ready for round 1.
rosy23 said:
Hey Rose - the "4,000" figure was mentioned a week ago in media reports.
Additionally, why would the progress of a RFC player be an out of bounds question of another RFC player?
New York Tiger said:
Thanks for answering the question I asked benny in regards to membership figures NY. Interesting they were so slow to update the figures on the club website if the info was available in the media. I was told by the club that they couldn't give figures last week when I rang about renewing my membership.
I don't get the point of your second question. I certainly didn't say "the progress of a RFC player be an out of bounds question of another RFC player" and I don't think it should.
rosy23 said:
The club was out spouting off (rightly so IMO) about the membership boost as early as Jan 9. Even if the website was not up to the minute the message was being put into the mainstream media.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24891370-23211,00.html
"Our membership is at least 4,000 up on this time last year and we do attribute quite a lot of this added interest in the club to the signing of Ben Cousins last month," Richmond's commercial operations manager Hamish McKenzie said on Friday.
rosy23 said:
As NYT states the figure were available as they had been mentioned in the media when benny posted it. Just because it hadn’t been posted on the membership tally on the RFC website doesn’t make it any less truthful.
Re. the articles, eight of those that you mentioned were written within 3 days of Cousins arriving at RFC! Hardly a case of the RFC saturating their media exposure with Cousins since his arrival. Also I think you will find Cullen works for AFL.com rather than RFC.
SCOOP said:
Western mentioned playing the Cousins card, not me. I'm not sure how he even defines that. You haven't mentioned the articles on the club site that I referred to in reply to Western despite quoting my comments about that. You mention all of the players being interviewed as though they're club sanctioned, which I assume they are, and most of them discuss Cousins. Mark Coughlan certainly did. I didn't hear the other interview you specifically mention. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. If the club think Ben is dramatically increasing our membership numbers they'd be silly not to have his name out there as much as possible.
My post that Western singled out wasn't questioning the Cousins card. It was a direct reply to benny furrs saying hardly a word was coming out of the club this time last year and my point was that the club made it very clear last year that they were going to let their footy do the talking rather than giving interviews etc***, and both you and Western have responsed without considering the context. Not surprising really, it's certainly not the first time.
Anyway I don't have any interest whatsoever in discussing it any further with you scoop. You mightn't think they're putting Cousins name out there but I think they have been. I think it's their job to.
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