Worst List in the Comp for the Next few years

[jb03]

Hurts to say but we have the worst list or worst short term future in the comp. Forget Melbourne and Freo, they will shoot past us next year. Perhaps only the Kangas can match us yet they did to Melbourne wat we couldn't.

Just so many holes to fill.

 

[craig]

Agreed been saying as such for some time.

The list is *smile* and at least 18 need to go in next 2 years for this club to go anywhere.

 

[DragicevicFan]

Yep. We're in massive trouble.

There are probably 20-25 names on the list that if they never played AFL again, we wouldnt be surprised.

We are building a defence around Moore, Thursfield, McGuane and Rance.

Do any of them have the required a) skill level or b) level of decision making to be top grade AFL defenders?

I'd say no.

Thats without looking at the fact they all struggle to contain their opponents also.

 

[RFC56]

Our list, at its best, lacks depth. A few injuries and we are exposed. We have a few players out injured, but nothing like some of the other teams. We have very few at Coburg pushing hard for a game (apart from Bowden), so our future looks bleak.

I often measure our list by looking at who would get a game in a top side. At present, I struggle to find players that would get a game, at say, Geelong or St Kilda

 

[btoz_01]

Yep. We're in massive trouble.

There are probably 20-25 names on the list that if they never played AFL again, we wouldnt be surprised.

We are building a defence around Moore, Thursfield, McGuane and Rance.

Do any of them have the required a) skill level or b) level of decision making to be top grade AFL defenders?

I'd say no.

Thats without looking at the fact they all struggle to contain their opponents also.

It doesnt really help when the ball keeps coming into their forward line and we get smashed in the centre. The Swans have 53 inside 50's to 37.

 

[jb03]

Yep. We're in massive trouble.

There are probably 20-25 names on the list that if they never played AFL again, we wouldnt be surprised.

We are building a defence around Moore, Thursfield, McGuane and Rance.

Do any of them have the required a) skill level or b) level of decision making to be top grade AFL defenders?

I'd say no.

Thats without looking at the fact they all struggle to contain their opponents also.

Fair point about the backline draga. Moore has gone backwards, Thursfield seems only to be able to stop but not create, McGuane, well I guess he tries hard and Rance has so many flaws to his game it is staggering he was taken at 18. And can't believe he was allowed to take a kick out.

Back flankers we look ok but key backs are a major worry.

 

[DragicevicFan]

It doesnt really help when the ball keeps coming into their forward line and we get smashed in the centre. The Swans have 53 inside 50's to 37.

We are getting smashed in the middle, will grant you that.

However, alot of those inside 50's are coming from the blokes listed above kicking the ball striaght back to the opposition.

 

[DragicevicFan]

And can't believe he was allowed to take a kick out.

Who is responsible for our kick ins?

Does any other club bomb it outside 50 to a contest more than us? Take longer to get the ball back in than us?

Getting the ball safely to half way from a kick in is barely a pass mark IMO. We struggle to get it outside 50.

 

[mopsy fraser]

Yep. We're in massive trouble.

There are probably 20-25 names on the list that if they never played AFL again, we wouldnt be surprised.

We are building a defence around Moore, Thursfield, McGuane and Rance.

Do any of them have the required a) skill level or b) level of decision making to be top grade AFL defenders?

I'd say no.

Thats without looking at the fact they all struggle to contain their opponents also.

the trouble with moore,will,rance and mcguane is they are half back flankers that are being played in key positions.
they had no hope of stopping jesse white today,just like we could never stop barry hall.

 

[mopsy fraser]

Who is responsible for our kick ins?

Does any other club bomb it outside 50 to a contest more than us? Take longer to get the ball back in than us?

Getting the ball safely to half way from a kick in is barely a pass mark IMO. We struggle to get it outside 50.

it`s because our players stand around like stale bottles of *smile* not willing to lead and provide options.

 

[josey]

How would a midfield of Deledio, Tambling, Foley, Cotchin, Cousins, Collins, Jackson and perhaps the like of Martin from the draft change things.

Chuck in a couple of inside specialists like Tuck and Thompson and things might look a little different.

Touch of melodrama in this thread i reckon.

 

[cmarkidis]

Not only are these blokes' skill levels not up to AFL level, but what's more disturbing from where I sit - they are dumb as dog sh!t. This is a sad indictment of that *smile* Wallace.

 

[Disco08]

How would a midfield of Deledio, Tambling, Foley, Cotchin, Cousins, Collins, Jackson and perhaps the like of Martin from the draft change things.

Chuck in a couple of inside specialists like Tuck and Thompson and things might look a little different.

Touch of melodrama in this thread i reckon.

Agreed. The result dictates the discussion every week.

 

[TigerArmySoldier01]

Our topline midfield just doesnt seem to cut it...

Going into this year... even with question marks over cuz.... we thought cotchin, lids, foley, tambling, tuck was a good enough midfield

The worrying thing is the players with question marks have probably been our best... tambling and cuz!

 

[mld]

The result dictates the discussion every week.

Too true.

 

[Punxsutawney Phil]

Who is responsible for our kick ins?

Does any other club bomb it outside 50 to a contest more than us? Take longer to get the ball back in than us?

Getting the ball safely to half way from a kick in is barely a pass mark IMO. We struggle to get it outside 50.

Not only are our kick ins a shambles, but our defence of the opposition's kick ins is also. Has been for years.

 

[Scoop]

Agreed. The result dictates the discussion every week.

Not true Disco. The fundamental flaws that some have pointed out all year are now being seen by everyone.

It is not results related at all. It is more results driven by those who choose to believe that some players on this current list could lead us out of the wilderness. Players like McGuane, Jackson, White, Pattison, Graham are quite simply not up to it. At various points this year these group has been lauded as potential All Aussie, Club leaders, long term answers and capable of getting a game in any side. It is crazy talk.

Week to week results are not why people make claims as JB's and don't think he is too far off it.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Today was garbage but the players have shown recently that they are capable of better. It's a young side and our performances will fluctuate for a couple of years yet.

 

[Disco08]

Not true Disco.

Of course it's true. Read the threads by date and it's all too obvious. How many's a few? 4? 5? How can jimbob possibly know what state our list will be in 5 years from now?

 

[Scoop]

Of course it's true. Read the threads by date and it's all too obvious. How many's a few? 4? 5? How can jimbob possibly know what state our list will be in 5 years from now?

Read the rest of my post. Those with false hope suffer the hardest.

I would take a few to mean 2-3. There is no denying we have a long way to go to get better and histroy shows it doesn't happen quickly. I want to know what those people (you included) think of the likes of McGuane, Jackson, White, Pattison, Graham right now. It is becoming quite clear that the backslappers were wiling to rub it in those who doubted certain players on our list but those long term questions still exist and if anything have got louder.