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Who would you pick at No 9?
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IrockZ said:
Feel free to correct me if you can think of one, but by my calculations there is only one premiership team this century who has grown their own ruckman, and that was WC and he was a rookie. Clearly having a home grown ruck is not a prerequisite for winning a cup, and even if it is we have Vickery, who being a top 10 pick shows the commitment of Francis to get a quality ruck. Do we need to use another top 10 pick to find another one? I don't think so, too many eggs in one basket.
linuscambridge said:
I will correct myself, pretty sure Clarke Keating was home grown by Brisbane, but certainly not a high pick.
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Tigers of Old said:
They'll pick someone who underwhelms us, then release a highlights video that wows us, but there will still be room for oodles of pages about the grass being greener with Carlton's pick.
linuscambridge said:
Port's were home grown too weren't they? So if you inculde Bribane, Port and WCE you start to get a decent number.
Anyway, what's interesting about Cox is that he has been the backbone of his club for almost a decade, and also works well in tandum with another talented ruck.
I see your point, but personally I think if we have Grundy as the best avialable we should take him.
linuscambridge said:
Keating, McDonald, Charman, Lade, Brogan, Cox, Seaby, King, Campbell, Blake all premiership ruckman at the club whod rafter them.
Brodders17 said:
Probably shot myself in the foot with a such a sweeping statement over my breakfast cereal this morning :-[. I still hope you get my point though, if you go back through the premiers looking for a home grown first string ruck, then Cox is the most recent one that really stands out, and he was a rookie if I recall.
Mind you, I am getting away from my point of view and drifting into the argument of when you take your ruckmen in the draft. I love the look of Grundy and if he gets picked up by us in the draft will welcome him with open arms. Would I pick him? No.
My point of view is that with such a scarce resource as a top 10 pick, do you choose a player as insurance for a position you already have covered twice? Maric is first ruck, got that covered. If he goes down Vickery is becoming a very good ruck and was doing some lovely work earlier this year before he went down. If they both go down then we are scraping the bottom of the barrel with Tom, or one of the new guys currently trying out. But then so are 16 other clubs, because I can only think of Carlton with Kruezer, Warnock and Hampson, or Freo with Sandilands, Griffen and Clarke, who have 3 rucks who might get a gig as first ruck at another club. Every other team is in the same boat we are in with one good, one adequate and a couple of rubbish rucks in case of emergency.
Think of it from a dream team point of view, would you spend $400 000 on 3 different ruckmen and leave one out of the team? That would be madness, a foolish use of resources when you could spend that money on another top mid fielder. It's not that different from putting together an AFL list.
linuscambridge said:
West Coast with Cox and NicNat used a 2nd round pick on Lycett, The Dons have Bellchambers, Hille and Ryder.
Drafting Grundy wouldnt be about next years ruck stocks. It would be about our rucks in 3/4 years time, with the bomus that Grundy may be able to spend time up forward, rucking a little, next year and the yer after.
If we think he is the best available at our pick we should take him. IMO.
Brodders17 said:
Cox is 31, Hille around the same. If you want to include them in the debate then you have to accept Maric may have another 5 years left in him. Then we are looking at a Jacobs/Maric situation where one of our top rucks want to leave for better opportunities elsewhere.
linuscambridge said:
This problem is a non-problem, with many hypotheticals to solve. So GrrrrrrrUndies becomes the competitions dominate ruckman in 3 years and rotates out of FF with TV. Maric cant get a game and Gold Coast cant get a ruckman and Josh Simpsons baby has rare sensitivity to UV that affects the development of his gross motor skills and ability to leap vertically. We swap Gold Coast Maric for Simpson and pick 20. We draft an underwhelming inside mid who grow on trees with pick 20, but that is neither here nor there. Simpson is the most electric centreman since m.rioli, GRRRRRUndies wins the Norm Smith, Him and TV kicks 102 goals between 'em and little baby simpson thrives in the cold climate and at 5 years old 120/18 is dominating Auskick and noone can tell which is his preferred side.
