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When will Bernie go !!

Col.W.Kurtz said:
It is sort of funny how we are playing nothing like any previous Hardwick teams. Suddenly there is a premium on pace and tackling. Also our ball movement patterns have completely changed. Maybe this was dimma's idea all along, but it does feel like a new sheriff is in town.

Bare in mind most of the pace was recruited the off season after the port final smashing!
 
keepa lids onit said:
So we've now got a game plan that suits our players and our team. Finallly.
U think this is Dimmas doing ???? Not a fat chance in hell. If it was we would have been playing like this years ago.
He has no clue, luckily our new assistants can see our potential and implement a game style that suits.
This has nothing to do with Dimma and his clueless coaching. Should have gone with the rest of em. Done.
Don't you dare blame Dimma then,when we do loose our first game.
Will show you up for what you really are if you do.
 
Col.W.Kurtz said:
It is sort of funny how we are playing nothing like any previous Hardwick teams. Suddenly there is a premium on pace and tackling. Also our ball movement patterns have completely changed. Maybe this was dimma's idea all along, but it does feel like a new sheriff is in town.

Disagree. When we threw caution to the wind in 2014 and sprinted into the finals on the back of a 9 game unbeaten streak, our style was pacey.

2013 we were being called one of the fastest teams in the league with frenetic pace.

Beavis changed when we lost the the elim against the blues and changed even more after the north elim defeat and turned us into a defense first team. He didn't want to lose another final but the price of that was winning.

But this fast paced style of play isn't unknown to Beavis nor the teams under him.
 
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Col.W.Kurtz said:
It is sort of funny how we are playing nothing like any previous Hardwick teams. Suddenly there is a premium on pace and tackling. Also our ball movement patterns have completely changed. Maybe this was dimma's idea all along, but it does feel like a new sheriff is in town.
Hey there CWK i kind of agree here with others. We have been in this space before and we enjoyed it. It was fresh and exciting, footy as it was designed. It suited our players too, just not the whole department unfortunately. Lets just hope this "new" style and its impact is able to be repeated when the going gets tough. Because its a hell of a lot easier to stomach a loss playing footy than to lose playing keepings off. Go tiges
 
Great win.

I cannot praise our back six enough.

When you play a frontal pressure style every member of the back line has their crucible moment during a game because there's no third man support when the oppo get it over the back.

We have the best one on one defences in the league.

Dimma, Rutten, Leppa, Cara and McCrae all get kudos. They are working beautifully, whoever is calling the shots.
 
Baloo said:
Disagree. When we threw caution to the wind in 2014 and sprinted into the finals on the back of a 9 game unbeaten streak, our style was pacey.

2013 we were being called one of the fastest teams in the league with frenetic pace.

Beavis changed when we lost the the elim against the blues and changed even more after the north elim defeat and turned us into a defense first team. He didn't want to lose another final but the price of that was winning.

But this fast paced style of play isn't unknown to Beavis nor the teams under him.

I do agree we switched after 2013, but you have to judge him on the majority of his career. To be fair to Beavis is prime years were 2013-15, in that three year stretch he had a relative mature and competitive team that could execute a gameplan.

In that period 13-15 there were two clear things about the team
-Ball control, we were top 3 in possession differential every year
-Partially related, we didn't tackle. We were always at the bottom in tackle differential.

Beavis wanted to defend from the front, dominate possession, lock the ball in our forward half and then generate turovers through defensive pressure. It was a classic ball control offence from the NFL (which Beavis loves btw). It's why he played Newman, Pettard and Morris as Fwds, he didn't want to break lines, he wanted to control and dominate. It worked to the extend we had a clear winning record over that time.

In 2016 when things went to pot he doubled down on that style, but because the team was bad all it did was minimise the losses slightly, but perhaps it worked to the extend that it reduce the amount of 100 point losses that would have got him fired.

The 2017 Tigers team (big caveat of a small sample size of 3 games!!!!), is mid table on possession differential and top 3 in tackling. Completely different to 13-15. Honestly, if I knew nothing else about the first three games but just looked at the stat sheet I would have presumed Dimma had been replaced.

Btw Jack on the radio last week said that Blake is doing the ball movement tactics. I think the best thing Dimma has done in a long time is had the guts to change the system. Only those with the 'four walls' know if he had a choice.
 
keepa lids onit said:
So we've now got a game plan that suits our players and our team. Finallly.
U think this is Dimmas doing ???? Not a fat chance in hell. If it was we would have been playing like this years ago.
He has no clue, luckily our new assistants can see our potential and implement a game style that suits.
This has nothing to do with Dimma and his clueless coaching. Should have gone with the rest of em. Done.
Seriously poor post.

If you don't think he is responsible for what is happening now why would you hold him responsible for what happened in the past? The only reason would be your own prejudice against the coach.
Successful people in life, whether they are in business or sport, always have good people around them. Dimma has good people around him but he is still the Head Coach and is responsible
 
Sintiger said:
Seriously poor post.

If you don't think he is responsible for what is happening now why would you hold him responsible for what happened in the past? The only reason would be your own prejudice against the coach.
Successful people in life, whether they are in business or sport, always have good people around them. Dimma has good people around him but he is still the Head Coach and is responsible
Alas it took dear old Damien far too long to get good people around him.
The mass culling of assistants, who Damien used to talk up at every opportunity highlights that.
In fact it took a shocking year on field last year for the club to wake from its slumber.
Gale & Co were forced to act, they were left with no other choice.
It was wake up time, at long last.

Balme appointed, Richardson moved sideways and Leppa & Caracella etc new assistants.
Now we have a new game plan, selections based on form & future, the total opposite of what had been happening under Hardwick for all those years prior.
Hardwick is being carried by good people around him appointed by others, namely Balme.
Balme has been the catalyst for change, not Hardwick.
 
asian tetley said:
Alas it took dear old Damien far too long to get good people around him.
The mass culling of assistants, who Damien used to talk up at every opportunity highlights that.
In fact it took a shocking year on field last year for the club to wake from its slumber.
Gale & Co were forced to act, they were left with no other choice.
It was wake up time, at long last.

Balme appointed, Richardson moved sideways and Leppa & Caracella etc new assistants.
Now we have a new game plan, selections based on form & future, the total opposite of what had been happening under Hardwick for all those years prior.
Hardwick is being carried by good people around him appointed by others, namely Balme.
Balme has been the catalyst for change, not Hardwick.

And you're on the inside and know the machinations of the coaching panel and selection committee?

Cup of tea, what you state is just your opinion it is not fact. Flip the coin over and see another scenario - Hardwick & Balme sit down in September/October last year to discuss the 2017 season - Hardwick identifies where he sees the weaknesses in the football department, the goes onto to explain the style of play he wants from the Tigers. Balme agrees and adds a process to find the right people to compliment the head coach. He agrees with Hardwick that a leadership course at Harvard will open Hardwicks mind to various ways of developing players mental toughness.

The plan the processes the right personnel in assistant coaches and fitness staff consolidate the plan and processes come together to forge a juggernaut. The players get a new lease on their football life and are freed from the old game plan. The new game plan, which has many similarities to the Tigers of 2013, takes shape and is exposed in the JLT games. It's carried into round 1 where player confidence and belief grows.

Three wins later and the football department is a buzz with belief in how the 2017 Tigers play the game.

And it all started with Hardwick's beliefs when he spoke with Balme and Balme creating the environment for Hardwick's wishes to come true.

My scenario is too just an opinion and has just as much plausibility as yours.... So stop the muck raking and go have a cup of tea, chill, sit back and enjoy the wins.........
 
RemoteTiger said:
And you're on the inside and know the machinations of the coaching panel and selection committee?

Cup of tea, what you state is just your opinion it is not fact. Flip the coin over and see another scenario - Hardwick & Balme sit down in September/October last year to discuss the 2017 season - Hardwick identifies where he sees the weaknesses in the football department, the goes onto to explain the style of play he wants from the Tigers. Balme agrees and adds a process to find the right people to compliment the head coach. He agrees with Hardwick that a leadership course at Harvard will open Hardwicks mind to various ways of developing players mental toughness.

The plan the processes the right personnel in assistant coaches and fitness staff consolidate the plan and processes come together to forge a juggernaut. The players get a new lease on their football life and are freed from the old game plan. The new game plan, which has many similarities to the Tigers of 2013, takes shape and is exposed in the JLT games. It's carried into round 1 where player confidence and belief grows.

Three wins later and the football department is a buzz with belief in how the 2017 Tigers play the game.

And it all started with Hardwick's beliefs when he spoke with Balme and Balme creating the environment for Hardwick's wishes to come true.

My scenario is too just an opinion and has just as much plausibility as yours.... So stop the muck raking and go have a cup of tea, chill, sit back and enjoy the wins.........

"Hardwicks beliefs when he spoke to Balme".
We all know what Hardwick's beliefs were, coz we saw them year after year with our own eyes.
Did you enjoy his gameplan last year?
It was simply woeful.
Must be pure coincedence that Hardwick's game plan has been completely transformed.
Nothing to at all with Balme,Leppa & Carecella.
A Dimma disciple till the end Remote?
 
asian tetley said:
Alas it took dear old Damien far too long to get good people around him.
The mass culling of assistants, who Damien used to talk up at every opportunity highlights that.
In fact it took a shocking year on field last year for the club to wake from its slumber.
Gale & Co were forced to act, they were left with no other choice.
It was wake up time, at long last.

Balme appointed, Richardson moved sideways and Leppa & Caracella etc new assistants.
Now we have a new game plan, selections based on form & future, the total opposite of what had been happening under Hardwick for all those years prior.
Hardwick is being carried by good people around him appointed by others, namely Balme.
Balme has been the catalyst for change, not Hardwick.

Never mind AT, you can still bash Penny, Benny and the Board for at least few more weeks.
 
asian tetley said:
"Hardwicks beliefs when he spoke to Balme".
We all know what Hardwick's beliefs were, coz we saw them year after year with our own eyes.
Did you enjoy his gameplan last year?
It was simply woeful.
Must be pure coincedence that Hardwick's game plan has been completely transformed.
Nothing to at all with Balme,Leppa & Carecella.
A Dimma disciple till the end Remote?

Wow - you really cant enjoy the wins and let go...

Who cares if its Dimma or blokes plan, as long as were winning the coaching team will be moving forward..

I support the club not individuals, equally i don't witch hunt individuals, i have opinions however they are not fact, and using situations or scenarios doesn't make them fact.

Its an emotional business supporting RFC, however if you cant enjoy the wins i really so not point in even being a supporter!
 
Tigertough1974 said:
Wow - you really cant enjoy the wins and let go...

Who cares if its Dimma or blokes plan, as long as were winning the coaching team will be moving forward..

I support the club not individuals, equally i don't witch hunt individuals, i have opinions however they are not fact, and using situations or scenarios doesn't make them fact.

Its an emotional business supporting RFC, however if you cant enjoy the wins i really so not point in even being a supporter!
For sure I'm enjoying the wins.
And I'm especially enjoying having some capable people within the football department, at long last.
That's probably the most pleasing aspect for me.Having confidence, as we move forward, that we are capable of developing a side capable of going places.
Plenty more work to do of course.
I'm sure Balme has his thoughts focused on our recruiting department.