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Western Australia: Shark Attack Central
- Thread starter LeeToRainesToRoach
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MD Jazz said:
So that's the answer? Don't swim, don't surf, don't dive?
Surf champion Kelly Slater calls for daily shark cull on Réunion
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
that is ridiculous, as most of what Bolt says is. i doubt there would be anyone who would choose the life of a shark of the life of a person.
what those who oppose culls and drum lines etc oppose is the indiscriminate mass killing of sharks on the chance that it may, at some point, save a life.
an article recently linked to show horses kill more Australians than sharks. do we cull horses? do we ban them? of course not.
do we ban motorbikes, cos i am sure they cause a lot more deaths than sharks?
what about banning people from going near water cos a lot more people drown than get killed by sharks?
should all Tigers be slaughtered cos they may kill someone?
lions, hippos? dogs?
it is awful that someone was killed by a shark. but a hysterical response is not the answer.
Standard strawman argument.
Brodders17 said:
They exist, I've seen the opinion published. Especially in comments on news articles about fatal attacks.
I'm not advocating "indiscriminate mass killing", however it's a fact that sharks were culled at Reunion until 1999. And now they have a big problem.
Surfers tend to be conservationists at heart, but greenies are becoming a natural enemy.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
how a strawman argument? a shark kills someone therefor we should kill sharks. (and because they look scary). why doesnt the same apply to other animals?
comments published at the bottom of news articles are similar to a bolt column. full of exaggeration with no evidence.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
No, my point was that he clearly sits in this camp "there is a large contingent of the public that support the second view that humans are the most important species on earth".
When this is your view and your values its easy to argue that there is merit in indiscriminately killing sharks in there own en/v so humans can go and have a good old swim or surf.
When Bolts suck hole parner Steve Price was on AWDrive... Pre Hinch ... someone was killed by a shark in the shallows on a Perth beach. Price went feral calling for the shark to be hunted down before it killed again as it now had the taste of blood. FW. I used to email every so often and ask how the hunt was going. Got the sort of reply you'd expect from a an angry weasel.
22nd Man said:
Sounds like the Ken Crew case. His friends were calling for the same action.
The WA shark cull
WesternTiger said:
Nonsense. Why do you assume perspectives lie at one extreme or the other? (I'll stop the shower and get out in order to save a daddy-long-legs from being washed down the drain.)
That's fair enough Lee. My problem with hunting down "killer" sharks is that they are just bEhaving normally - killing that individual shark doesnt solve anything except a desire for revenge. Drumlines and culls are expensive, kill thousands of sharks for almost no benefit. Shark nets kill thousands of other marine creatures as well.
It's like going into an Alaskan Stare park and killing any bears that come near humans, and fUrthermre killing a bunch of other bears just so hikers can feel safer. Hikers understand the risks and so do most surfers and divers, the choose to enter the environment where these creatures exist. By the way, I surfed for twenty or so years so I know what I'm talking about.
It's like going into an Alaskan Stare park and killing any bears that come near humans, and fUrthermre killing a bunch of other bears just so hikers can feel safer. Hikers understand the risks and so do most surfers and divers, the choose to enter the environment where these creatures exist. By the way, I surfed for twenty or so years so I know what I'm talking about.
antman said:
Yes, no easy answers to this one. The trend is shocking, witnesses are often traumatised for life, and people will re-assess those risks and stay out of the water. Some will perceive this happily as a 'natural solution' while others will be less accommodating.
MD Jazz said:
I think your numbers are off. Or are you referring to swimming only? Not fishing, water sports of other activities?
3 deaths in one year
11 shark deaths in the last 8 years.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
:hihi who's going to extremes and being nonsensical?
Bolts view is clearly in the second camp and at the extreme and I'm not just going by this article.
