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tigers80 said:
Noticed on Saturday night, yes the spinning of the ball but also shaking of the arms.

He is absolutely crapping himself when taking a set shot.

Nothing wrong with spinning the ball but yeah that arm shaking was pretty unusual.
 
tigers80 said:
Noticed on Saturday night, yes the spinning of the ball but also shaking of the arms.

He is absolutely crapping himself when taking a set shot.

I mentioned a while ago re spinning of the ball with players. It does my head in , just giving yourself less chance of a correct ball drop & hence stuffing the kick.
 
French Tiger said:
I mentioned a while ago re spinning of the ball with players. It does my head in , just giving yourself less chance of a correct ball drop & hence stuffing the kick.

Why? You don't spin all the way to the ball drop. Usually you spin to get the ball in the right position in your hands. I doubt there'd be any evidence to suggest spinning a ball before you kick reduces your chance of kicking the goal.
 
tigerlove said:
Why? You don't spin all the way to the ball drop. Usually you spin to get the ball in the right position in your hands. I doubt there'd be any evidence to suggest spinning a ball before you kick reduces your chance of kicking the goal.

No you don't spin it all the way until the drop. But placing it in your hands in the right position before you start walking in to me would be more beneficial then spinning it around on the way in. It probably works for some, but with him struggling with set shots like he is I would be changing my routine
 
tigerlove said:
Why? You don't spin all the way to the ball drop. Usually you spin to get the ball in the right position in your hands. I doubt there'd be any evidence to suggest spinning a ball before you kick reduces your chance of kicking the goal.

Agree that you would be hard pressed to find any evidence but logically I think it's a distraction from kicking the goal.
One or two spins would be OK as you say to get the right grip on the ball however George seems to have excessive spinning even after he's started his run up.

I'm a firm believer in keeping it simple. Like the way professional golfers "simplify" their swing I believe footballers would benefit from simplifying their goal kicking setup/procedure.

Keeping it simple and eliminating any unnecessary movements means that they would able to repeat a "good" kick with more consistency.

Plugger didn't spin the ball like that ... nor did Dunstall!
 
From an old full forward... Keep the routine simple. Hudson had an iron grip on the ball, as did McKenna, Lockett, Quinlan, Matthews, etc etc. Spinning the ball is nothing more than showboating.
 
TigerTribe5 said:
Plugger didn't spin the ball like that ... nor did Dunstall!

Away from the ball spinning theory, Plugger and Dunstall didn't have to work as hard in a whole game as all forwards now do. Many having shots for goal look completely stuffed and grasping for air. Now you have to settle yourself and kick within 30 seconds, unlike the luxury they used to havem pretty much taking as long as they want. So I think from this point of view a lot has changed to the detriment of accuracy on goal.
 
tigerlove said:
Away from the ball spinning theory, Plugger and Dunstall didn't have to work as hard in a whole game as all forwards now do. Many having shots for goal look completely stuffed and grasping for air. Now you have to settle yourself and kick within 30 seconds, unlike the luxury they used to havem pretty much taking as long as they want. So I think from this point of view a lot has changed to the detriment of accuracy on goal.

Fair point. They would tuck the jumper in, pull both socks up etc
 
tigerlove said:
Why? You don't spin all the way to the ball drop. Usually you spin to get the ball in the right position in your hands. I doubt there'd be any evidence to suggest spinning a ball before you kick reduces your chance of kicking the goal.

I have anecdotal evidence 8-.

seriously though, there is no doubt in my mind that the more ball spinning during the set shot approach, the more likely the player is to miss. I have no proof, based soley on a life of watching footy, and especially the last 15 years or so when I started noticing it.
 
TigerTribe5 said:
Plugger didn't spin the ball like that ... nor did Dunstall!

nor does Ben Brown, or Jack. (both have a spin before they start their approach, which makes no diff)