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Welcome to Tigers: Jason Castagna
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Sympathy for the Castagna.
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
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Yes Royce as George has a Rolls Royce motor. There at the start & there at the finish. At 25 three Premierships under his belt & he has just been run in. I luv him in the team.
Incorrect.
There are some very learned supporters who watch both live and on TV, who understand both his importance, and value.
Like many, you don't understand the qualities the coaching staff require to play George's role.
Number 1 - Absolutely pre-requisite is burst run 16 kms every match. Do that and only then can you be considered.
He is not a small forward. He plays way higher and runs from goal square to defensive 50 and back again - ALL MATCH.
Syd can't do it. Nor can Cumberland.
Clarke is the only one on the list that might in time.
Other than that it will only be a new coach that might see George on the outer. Slow learners should know after 2 or so VFL games in 5 years he belongs and will stay at AFL level for us.
Finally, keep the melts coming.
It's the first thread Leysy goes to for the lol's.
It's the first thread Leysy goes to for the lol's.
Personally I go to the betting threads and check out your past tips and bets.
Was the first goal George himself shovelling the ball out from the bottom of the pack?
Not entirely convincing was it? Did it show connected and teamwork?
My argument isn't the role or Castagna's individual capabilities, more that he appears to be out of sync with his teammates and a disruptor in our chains of attack
Previous years I'd agree. This year it's yeah nah we should demand better
Yeh, I think if you watch the goal
George kicked in the 2nd he was involved defensively before bolting forward. He works his arse off both ways, if you can’t do the running you aren’t an option to replace him.
It’s like trying to replace Lablett, who can do that running combined with his smarts? He’s irreplaceable in our system.
Why do people still fail to watch the game?
At the ground? If you can’t watch George properly, at least refrain from bagging this bloke.
Castagna runs to deny outlets. It’s his role since the AFL tried to change the rules on us, halt our dynasty.
Coburg, Tigertim, others, you can’t be watching the footy.
At the ground? If you can’t watch George properly, at least refrain from bagging this bloke.
Castagna runs to deny outlets. It’s his role since the AFL tried to change the rules on us, halt our dynasty.
Coburg, Tigertim, others, you can’t be watching the footy.
The criticism lies more on his bad disposals which have improved somewhat, but he doesn't do much tackling either if he runs both ways.
I hear you TF, but folks seem to be looking for 1000 tackles if he doesn't get the pill or doesn't use it effectively.
i would argue neither is his current KPI.
here's what everyone on PRE should be looking at to measure the worth of George's game :
- speed of opposition ball movement
- spread of opposition ball movement
and ultimately, and game-winningly:
- team turnover scores
we complain about the stand rule and rightly so. but we should not complain when *smile* Petracca marks the ball at half back, looks to dish a 45m dart to Langdon on the fat wing but George is already sprinting into space there.
the story finishes with Trac going long to Gawn, where Nank spoils, Prestia gathers, dishes to Titch, who dishes to Bolton in space. easy Lynch hit up in F50 space. goal.
the game is about wider containment now. outlet denial.
you need insanely hard runners to achieve wide containment. we have them. george is one of them.
This last line says it all. George, Macintosh, Pickett and Ross (when he is playing) are these blokes. The structured blokes Hardwick keeps referring to.
Really interesting analysis. I did note after hawthorn (I think) pushed Melbourne that on the couch pointed out that they played their winger on the fat side of Langdon the whole game and Langdon had a shocker. And hawks within two kicks and 22 scoring shots each.
You rarely pick this stuff up on tv. Next g game I get to will watch this more closely. If you can do the negating bit and a little bit more then it’s certainly extremely valuable. When blues smashed us and saints smashed us most of it imo was corridor/fat side transition / dubious free kick after winning a contest and moving it around the back.
our game is starting to come together, Roar.
I reckon our coaches have been looking to find ways to defend the stand rule all summer.
I also reckon we held some tactical things back for the Melbourne game. keep that powder dry for the next time we play them.
the west coast game was the one where we got the balance right at selection.
- forward pressure with MRJ (and Stack in that game)
- balta and baker back to shore up the magnificent 7
- short into midfield
- two rucks
this allows us to win more ball in midfield, repel more at D50, defend more effectively in F50. teams are no longer lining up to slice us on transition.
the critical 'wide containment' part of this equation is supplied by George and some others. this is why he is one of the first selected despite the absence of Diesel like hand passes and ten million tackles.
we are starting to look more like the ALL-GROUND defensive unit of 2017-2020. *despite* the stand rule and 666.
and people still complain about George. sheesh.
Let's hope so. I've had this in the back of my mind every time I see Dynastybourne win.
