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Welcome to Tigerland - Tim Taranto
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Double the amount of tackles than next best on the ground, easily the most pressure acts, equal most clearances and disposals, and second most contested possessions. Doing it both defensively and offensively. Also ran the most KMs on the ground - that’s now 6 out of 9 games this season. Unreal
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Mr consistency! Works so hard & just bobs up everywhere thanks to his gut running.
PRE still running with the line Mitchell cost Ollie Henry, Hawthorn did not receive Henry, they received pick 41 & 50. Collingwood were compensated for Henry, it was effectively a straight swap for Jakob Ryan.
Great chat with Daniel Harford on RSN this morning where Timmy speaks well about Dimma and also includes what he thinks about Cornhole (from 12:00 minutes on). This shows how down to earth he is.
The Best of Summer Breakfast - Thu Jan 25 by Breakfast with Harf
Highlights from Thursday's show.
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Was just about to post the link.Great chat with Daniel Harford on RSN this morning where Timmy speaks well about Dimma and also includes what he thinks about Cornhole (from 12:00 minutes on). This shows how down to earth he is.
The Best of Summer Breakfast - Thu Jan 25 by Breakfast with Harf
Highlights from Thursday's show.cms.megaphone.fm
Tim was asked about Cornhole, and said that while he hadn't experienced anything like that before, it doesn't faze him.
Said he's sure Cornhole's boss is happy.
Yeah, I loved the way he spoke even admitting he's not the best kick. No ego this bloke. What I like.
Wrong.
Geelong received Henry. Gave up Stephens and Pick 25
Hawthorn received Stephens and Picks 41 and 50. Gave up Mitchell
Collingwood received Mitchell and 25, and gave up Henry, 41 and 50.
41 and 50 are very close in value to 25, though I'm happy to give a bit more weighting to 25 because its a higher pick, but doesn't get away from the fact that they basically gave up Henry for a small upgrade and Mitchell.
BTW - it doesn't matter what Hawthorn gave up or received, there is always some imbalance in any trade, but its very clear what Collingwood received and gave up.
In Mitchell and 25
Out Henry, 41 and 50
Whats more, what would we have been able to give up for him. We'd traded what became 14 and 23 for Taranto - as we should, so the only argument is the Hopper trade. So we had Pick 31 and then what else??? We'd have needed more than 31 to have got him.
Pure supposition, no assurance Mitchell wanted to or would have come to Richmond anyway.
I wonder if, now that Taranto has said “yep you’re right, I’m not a great kick”, that Cornes will finally STFU about it!?
Yes, can everybody PLEASE finally stop talking about Tom bloody Mitchell? This is a TARANTO thread, talk about TARANTO. Every time I come on here Mitchell keeps getting brought up.. or who we could’ve got in the draft (which frankly noone has a clue unless you’re Matt Clarke or one of the recruiting team). If people want to talk about the “what could have beens” of the trade period, create a thread and go there. Taranto is a Richmond player, and a bloody good one at that, so let’s keep this about him, and take the trade talk elsewhere.
Sorry if that comes across as rude but that’s been building for a while. Rant over
It was only a matter of time until Taranto spoke out. This is bullying, a personal crusade about one player.
With mental health and all, I am somewhat surprised his media employers haven’t pulled him up on the constant barrage of articles.
With mental health and all, I am somewhat surprised his media employers haven’t pulled him up on the constant barrage of articles.
And this is from an All Australian selector too. Tim could easily be in the conversation for the squad of 44 at this stage of the season, but not with one member of the selection panel who clearly has something against him!It was only a matter of time until Taranto spoke out. This is bullying, a personal crusade about one player.
With mental health and all, I am somewhat surprised his media employers haven’t pulled him up on the constant barrage of articles.
Unless Champion Data confirms it then I won’t believe this.
Cooper Stephens was worth diddly squat, Mitchell a salary cap dump, if you paid him his entire wage he would have been free in all likelihood. Typical of PRE to change the narrative of Mitchell is a dud that nobody wants to suddenly being worth a first rounder.
We've been over this territory so many times any further discussion is senseless, Collingwood nailed the trade, Ryan looks a great acquisition, like for like when sizing up Henry plus they got their clearance machine. Fantastic trading and totally at odds with the PRE line they sold the farm. Mitchell could have been stitched up with a future second if Hawthorn pay part salary, probably a future third if Richmond pay 100%. Taranto as I've said adnauseum will be serviceable but may not ever see finals, it's all in the timing, very similar to bringing in Kane Johnson and missing 250 games of Daniel Wells.
But time to let this go, I'm pretty much done on the topic & pretty much done with the constant shifting of the goal posts, if you have any doubt about Mitchell's standing amongst Richmond supporters & the Richmond hierarchy then have a look at some of the comments made prior to the season. The fact none of you have even acknowledged that Mitchell is playing better than the preseason predictions tells me this will always be an exercise in spin & subterfuge.
As for Hopper, if the cost is too great then let it go, I would have been fine with trading out of 2022 but keeping our 2023 picks intact, that was a reasonable compromise, but throwing up a potential top 10 pick and a potential key forward/ well rounded midfielder too high a price on a player coming back from a PCL and a player who would have been a free agent in 2023. The way things are shaping up I'd say I've been entirely accurate but let's just see how the season unfolds from here. I'd personally like to see us scrape in a finals appearance but history says that's highly unlikely.
How am I "moving the goalposts" and "changing the narrative" when all I did was show what the ACTUAL trade was.
I really like your input throughout the BB but you need to be able to accept some level of alternative views. There is no scheme here to get you, all I did was show the trade.
Cooper Stephens is not a part of the Collingwood trade.
They traded Henry, 41 and 50 for Mitchell and 25. Thats cold hard fact. 25 and 41/50 are almost offset by each other (like I said with extra weighting towards Pick 25), so Mitchell (and a lower salary) was essentially traded for Henry and an upgraded pick. Not sure what there is to argue against here.
