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Welcome to the Tigers Mate Colina
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Well not totally incorrect. I found this below with an AI search. I'm pretty sure he cannot continue to be a Cat B player.
A Category B rookie in the AFL can typically remain on the rookie list for a maximum of three years. After this period, the player must either be upgraded to the senior list or delisted and potentially re-drafted
However, there was a temporary rule change allowing players in their third season to spend an additional 'replacement' year due to disruptions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic
I think that’s the only time he’s actually been on the park.- Mate Colina
vfl.aflmstats.com
Heres his VFL stats Could only find stats for 2022
Correct. First half of 2022 he had final US basketball committments. Outside of that he's been predominantly injured. Playhq shows the last time he played before 2022 was 2014 for Essendon Districts and Essendon Doutta Stars.
Edit: Fox sports reported this:
And while the Tigers officially delisted Colina in late October, they have committed to re-listing him as a rookie for 2025.
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They were second ruckmen who are important types for any modern team to achieve success because, no matter how great, no ruckman can go all match without a chop-out. (Even the likes of Gawn - witness the Grundy recruitment; failed because Grundy is also a No.1 ruck but then Deez had to throw JVR et al others on the ball).
So, the ability of a No.2 ruck to go forward and be an effective scoring option is vital for a player that is not good or strong enough to stand up to the No.1 rucks.
That's why I wanted us to keep Chol; almost the ideal 2nd ruck because quite dangerous up forward. He cops criticism from posters who expect him to be great as a ruckman; that's not his strength though. RFC couldn't make the hard decision to work hard to keep him and trade out CCJ.
Cost us both players. Chol still going well; maybe better than ever at the Dorks. Meanwhile, we are waiting forever for a spindly beanstalk type to ever be able to stand up and give Nank genuine support - as a chop-out or forward.
You can just about throw any tall into the ruck to give the ruckman a chop out you dont even need a genuine tall look at Grigg a ruckman in name only the same goes for JVR. He is a developing KPF who goes into the ruck to help out he is not a developing ruckman in any way yet we call him a second ruck.
The job of the second ruck is to do nothing more than compete, to be in the team they need to be more than just okay in their primary role and JVR projects as a promising kpf.
Chol copped criticism because while with us he was just okay in both roles. He also continues to well to put it bluntly play soft.
CCJ cops the same criticism because he is just meh when in the ruck and it was the same when forward. To make it he will need to get a lot better in one of the roles.
You mention Melbourne. Before Grundy they drafted a kid called Luke Jackson who could if need be played kpf or ruck and play either roles very well.
He is a genuine FWD/Ruck he does both roles well.
I think Grundy was meant to play primarily as a forward for them after Jackson left for Fremantle. That did not work out for them because Grundy's one wood is in the ruck and he just does not do enough to be played primarily as a fwd.
Well the Grigg role worked to an extent then but probably still cost us at times in those games. Now your no.2 ruck has got to be effective enough in ruck contests so as not to cost vital clearances and goals. But this is helped by generally only being thrown on the ball when the opposition no.2 relieves their main ruck too.
But Grigg was a mid mainly. Guys like JVR are taller and genuine, competitive KPFs.
Chol might be a little soft and has that laconic style but he's serviceable in the ruck and quite effective forward, kicking another 37 goals in '24. That's a really good return for someone in this role. He also kicked about 42 for GCS a couple of years back. I doubt there is many 2nd rucks with better goal returns.
Given this type is only doing very limited time in the ruck, being an effective KPF otherwise is a huge plus. People can knock Mabior as much as they like but we have not found anyone with this kind of output since losing Chol. JVR kicked 30 in probably his best year in '24. Ryan about 3!
Colina? Really not sure if he's ever going to progress to the required level at all. Surely if he miraculously did, it would be as an intended no.1 ruck.
These days the no.2 has to play a significant role, not just be a body to throw in the contests.
A lot of fans will be thinking that we should take on say Joe Pike. But he's short. (Here we go again.) These tall ruck stocks are more important than ever.
I like Joe Pike. Pike is blue-collar. But he's short.
I'm a huge fan of Will Green. He reminds me of young Jeff White. Green can really get air and is classy. He can jump and he can catch it. Glamour.
Mate is a good runner. Once he gets moving. He's not a natural footballer. But he can get it. He just falls over some times. Nobody will ever guarantee grass competing against Mate. If he gets on the park. And nobody will outrun him. Can never be outreached. Can never be outrun.
I really like Will Green. So classy. A footballer. He plays for South Melbourne or whatever. 204 and can seriously jump. If we can get Mate on the park Will Green is redundant.
Defending air, defending grass. Mate will be able to do that. If we can get him on the park. And get him to stay upright.
We're Nineteenthmond. We can roll the dice one more time on Mate. Think Sandilands. Like that.
I like Joe Pike. Pike is blue-collar. But he's short.
I'm a huge fan of Will Green. He reminds me of young Jeff White. Green can really get air and is classy. He can jump and he can catch it. Glamour.
Mate is a good runner. Once he gets moving. He's not a natural footballer. But he can get it. He just falls over some times. Nobody will ever guarantee grass competing against Mate. If he gets on the park. And nobody will outrun him. Can never be outreached. Can never be outrun.
I really like Will Green. So classy. A footballer. He plays for South Melbourne or whatever. 204 and can seriously jump. If we can get Mate on the park Will Green is redundant.
Defending air, defending grass. Mate will be able to do that. If we can get him on the park. And get him to stay upright.
We're Nineteenthmond. We can roll the dice one more time on Mate. Think Sandilands. Like that.
Not sure Jack. Is tall. Can run. But not a natural, falls over and can’t get on the park.
List spots are precious. This yr more than most.
He's not taking a list spot, nor any salary within the cap.
If he qualifies for CatB for another year I'd probably keep him on. Would we give him an actual rookie spot? Dunno. I'd look at say Mirkov for a rookie spot. And perhaps we'll take Dodson in the draft.
Don't we have to take him now as a Rookie instead of a Cat B? If that's the case then he'd be taking a list spot.
he's been delisted with the intention of re-rookieing him as a cat b. The same is done with the main rookie list as well, so long as they're delisted they can be re-rookied which resets their rookie eligibility duration.
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We've taken short rucks before.
Or more accurately traded them in and turned them into best 22.
But they must be highly competitive. And combative. And a work horse.
We dont go in for glamour.
Not even for oversize, plus size or short duckling rucks
Or more accurately traded them in and turned them into best 22.
But they must be highly competitive. And combative. And a work horse.
We dont go in for glamour.
Not even for oversize, plus size or short duckling rucks
Saw mate’s snap goal v the cats
Not bad
And gut running players, two way.
We need to work on disrupting the opposition offensive play and get an ok share of contested footy wins
Hardwicks ploy of get it forward however (remember the taps to advantage by the whole team and edwards invisible handballs?
Plus we all saw how long we hung around the top 8 once Cotchin exited.
Dusty didn’t make GOAT without Cotchin.
And Riewoldt was so clever
We had 4 x 300 gamers with flags and brownlows and norm smiths and all aus
4 generation players in one team plus very handy role players
Not saying we won’t get back there but we need to make this draft day count.
We’ll discuss this draft for a long time
