tigersnake said:You reckon we would have beaten Adelaide yesterday? Footscray? Hawthorn?
yes/yes/no
tigersnake said:You reckon we would have beaten Adelaide yesterday? Footscray? Hawthorn?
Dyer'ere said:When have we ever beaten North? We struggle against their reserves.
He's bloody deluded, Oldster.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:yes/yes/no
you underestimate North. Old and experienced and unfortunately better. And you over rate us.tigersnake said:Really? I'm taking crazy pills I guess. Without King Kong on our back we can beat anyone. Would have massacred Sydney next week, KK would have been gone
thanks 2323.21.159 said:OK.
There has been alot of mis-information about what sort of finals West Coast lost three times in a row, when they then won the premiership, and how many.
Time for some facts.
2001 : Finished 14th.
2002 : Finished 8th. Lost an Elimination Final to Essendon at Etihad by 33 points.
2003 : Finished 7th. Lost an Elimination Final to Adelaide in Adelaide by 56 points.
2004 : Finished 7th. Lost an Elimination Final to Sydney in Sydney by 41 points.
Contrary to popular belief, they did NOT win the next year's premiership .....
2005 : Lost the GF to Sydney by 4 points.
But it was the year after .....
2006 : Beat Sydney in the GF by one point.
Note in contrast to us, they finished 7th/8th and so all of their Elimination Finals were away and the scores suggest they were never really in the hunt in any of the games (although scores were level at half time in the 2002 game).
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that we finished 5th in 2013 and 2015 and, I believe, player for player, we had a better list on both occasions.
We lost both due to mental issues/finals hardness, etc.
We were also a bit stiff, both times, that the team finishing 7th was an interstate team.
I've stated elsewhere that it would be a significant improvement to the current system if 5th could chose their opponent out of 7th and 8th.
Having said that, 7th beat 6th (away and interstate) in both years.
yandb said:I note in the Herald Sun an article that in his post match bake of the players Dimma mentions that West Coast lost 3 preliminary finals in a row and went on to win the next GF.
This a very obscure fact and the fact that Dimma was ready immediately after the match with this stat and able to spin it in his post match address makes you wonder how confident he was of winning.
jb03 said:you underestimate North. Old and experienced and unfortunately better. And you over rate us.
t I think you are saying North are better but are having trouble accepting it.tigersnake said:I don't reckon. We lost it between the ears. We must played scared and dumb footy. Coaches, players, the lot. Lead in our boots. No leadership. North played well, but nothing awesome. The fact we were so close in spite of being so far off our game is amazing. Just watched Harvey kick one of his goals, had an acre at the back of the pack with the game on the line, Harvey!. That is not us. If we'd played well we would have won.
(North don't have any baggage, lucky for them, not many people care much what they do.)
And I assume there's previous occasions where a club has lost 3 finals and disappeared into oblivion.yandb said:I note in the Herald Sun an article that in his post match bake of the players Dimma mentions that West Coast lost 3 preliminary finals in a row and went on to win the next GF.
This a very obscure fact and the fact that Dimma was ready immediately after the match with this stat and able to spin it in his post match address makes you wonder how confident he was of winning.
jb03 said:t I think you are saying North are better but are having trouble accepting it.
Carter said:The team they put out on the park was better.
We had boys in red hot form. Lennon and Lloyd.
Replaced by lame ducks.
Two blokes like that is more than 15 points difference.
Carter said:We had boys in red hot form. Lennon and Lloyd.
Carter said:The team they put out on the park was better.
We had boys in red hot form. Lennon and Lloyd.
Replaced by lame ducks.
Two blokes like that is more than 15 points difference.
Carter said:The team they put out on the park was better.
We had boys in red hot form. Lennon and Lloyd.
Replaced by lame ducks.
Two blokes like that is more than 15 points difference.
True but it makes us feel a little bit better by apportioning the blame to selection.Tigers of Old said:Can't possibly say that's where it was lost. Pure fantasy Carts.
Carter said:The team they put out on the park was better.
We had boys in red hot form. Lennon and Lloyd.
Replaced by lame ducks.
Two blokes like that is more than 15 points difference.