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Terrorist attacks in Paris
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LeeToRainesToRoach said:
So far, 2 of these attackers were Syrian refugees who migrated to Greece. You can't trust anyone.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
nah, but its a very rare loony that still hates when they have the best of everything, and even then that rare loony wouldn't act on their hate. Give people a half decent job and a place in society and the hate eases pretty quick.
Besides, there have always been people with hate in their DNA, whether isis or KKK, whatever. Difference now is more people in smaller areas with less money and opportunities, but with exposure to the good life that they can't have.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
shut the doors to who? everyone? noone in or out?
or just people who dont speak English? or who aren't white? or just those who dont share your religion?
tigersnake said:
Don't disagree. Murdering innocent victims regardless of their financial situation would seem an odd correlation.
tigersnake said:
Bin Laden was a millionaire a hundred times over.
Brodders17 said:
Who do you think I'm referring to? Only one region has a penchant for blowing themselves up in exchange for virgins.
Think of it like discovering that a certain car model has a mechanical defect. Not all vehicles will be defective, but the manufacturer issues a recall of all units.
These people are, as a rule, defective. Time they were sent back to the factory that made them.
I reckon the 'fit will hit the shan' with the reporting that two of those responsible for the atrocities in Paris had put in as refugees in Greece. Gonna give a lot of fuel to the 'no immigrants' parties out there.
Some more won't get in but lots will suffer even more because of this, IMO.
Some more won't get in but lots will suffer even more because of this, IMO.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
yes, that a great idea. treat people like you treat cars. *smile* me dead.
Brodders17 said:
Keep fiddling while Rome burns mate, just close your eyes and pretend everything will be OK. It's your prerogative.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
you got me there. Point stands though. He trawled the disaffected and alienated for followers.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
we may disagree on the causes, (hitting hard hasn't really solved things), but I haven't seen anyone suggest everything will be OK.
What's a worry is that because of acts like this families fleeing these exact atrocities will have borders shut in their face. Whilst people are praying for paris spare a thought for decent humans and families fleeing unspeakable horrors played out on their doorstep on a weekly basis.
tigersnake said:
This country's political approach is to completely discourage open and honest discussion of the problem. If we continue to pretend there is no problem ("lone wolves" etc), we will go under. It's the most gutless thing since Chamberlain.
"Quick, look over there - a day/night Test match!"
I appreciate that Muslim terrorists make up a infinitesimal % of their faith but by God (Allah) they are succeeding in making this world a far worse place to be living.
You have to wonder how our great grandchildren will be living. Will there be "war" between Muslims and non Muslims? Is it only a matter of time before disaffected non Muslims decide to "hit back" and attack Muslims in a like matter? It's a scary sickening future.
You have to wonder how our great grandchildren will be living. Will there be "war" between Muslims and non Muslims? Is it only a matter of time before disaffected non Muslims decide to "hit back" and attack Muslims in a like matter? It's a scary sickening future.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
i prefer to have my eyes open, and not ignore the deaths and suffering of the many who are trying to flee the violence.
you, and others advocating the "shut the border" approach, dont seem to care as long as it doesnt happen in your backyard.
you might consider those from the middle east, or muslims in general, as less important than westerners, but i dont.
Brodders17 said:
As often happens, the few spoil it for the many. What price foreign aid?
Like overloading a lifeboat in a disaster at sea, your attitude would doom us all. At this stage we still have a degree of control and must use it wisely.
Sintiger said:
i'm sad and angry that people do this in a the name a god that does not exist.
I was in Paris 3 months ago. I travelled to Paris on the Thalys train from Brussels. 1 week later there was an attempted terrorist attack on the same train which was foiled by a couple of brave American soldiers on holiday.
sad and angry.
6 Million Muslims live in France.
It looks like these terrorists are predominantly imports.
You'd think, if Muslims were as evil and committed to hatred against infidels as is made out on this thread there would be a lot more killing and violence in France with 6 million Muslims.
It seems to be just a very small minority of terrorists who have hijacked Islam as their cause to further try to create a greater divide between people.
They'd be wrapped to hear people calling to close down borders for the refugees. That's their aim.
It looks like these terrorists are predominantly imports.
You'd think, if Muslims were as evil and committed to hatred against infidels as is made out on this thread there would be a lot more killing and violence in France with 6 million Muslims.
It seems to be just a very small minority of terrorists who have hijacked Islam as their cause to further try to create a greater divide between people.
They'd be wrapped to hear people calling to close down borders for the refugees. That's their aim.
Baloo said:
Thing is, and they'd never admit it to us non-believers, that while most Muslims disagree with terrorist methods, they'd sooner thrown in their lot with ISIS than support the US government, or even our own. If it looked as though ISIS was winning and an Islamic Australia was imminent, they'd stab you in the back as soon as look at you. Islam's a brotherhood; you're either in the club or you're not. There's no room for compromise.
How can you possibly hope to properly integrate a people who see evil at every turn? Because that's what Muslims think when they turn on the TV and see advertising featuring scantily-clad women or promotions for alcohol or gambling. Haram you dirty Westerners! We can never live alongside these people except in trepidation and high alert.
I don't give a flying *smile* what twisted reasoning is given for the current situation. People seeking to disintegrate others into chunks of meat are so far from the bounds of normal human decency as to be regarded as sub-human. And that is the way we must perceive the enemy, as they perceive us.
As disillusioning as it must be for leftists to see their impossible ideals torn asunder on a weekly basis by terrorist acts, we ALL need to confront the problem. We're at war. Accept it. France is lost without something akin to the Boxer Rebellion, but we're still a chance.
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