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Liverpool said:
Get off the high horse Remote.
If it was an ALP government who had the power across the board, then we wouldn't be hearing a peep from you.

Livers why do you make claims like that? You get pretty sensitive and personal when people knock your Libs but it's very presumptuous of you to assume, as you've done with more than one poster, that that means they are 100% behind Labor. No quotes needed, that's just a clear, and somewhat unfortunate perception I get of you. You should take comments on their merits without having to tie people in with one particular party or another.
 
Six Pack said:
good article in today's AGe by Michael Gawenda about how boring and sanitised the election campaign is and how the media management is stifling.
have to agree so far. yawn!

It's an election FFS, SixPack...what do you actually expect?

rosy23 said:
Livers why do you make claims like that? You get pretty sensitive and personal when people knock your Libs but it's very presumptuous of you to assume, as you've done with more than one poster, that that means they are 100% behind Labor. No quotes needed, that's just a clear, and somewhat unfortunate perception I get of you. You should take comments on their merits without having to tie people in with one particular party or another.

Rosy,
Like yourself....Remote is also someone who continually bags Howard/Libs, never post anything bad about the ALP......and then claim you are open-minded.
To me, someone who is open-minded about who they are going to vote for would be neutral, and therefore bagging all parties, or commenting on good things that all parties are initiating....NOT just one side of the dice all the time.
My presumptons and assumptions are based on the continual posting history from people like you and Remote.....and I think I am right on the money.
Of course, you'll come back and say I'm biased and you haven't decided who you are voting for, but we both know thats a load of *smile*.

P.S: A vote for the Greens is a vote for the ALP, etc as well....so with preferences, you're either a Lib or you're an ALP voter...simple as that.
 
Liverpool said:
P.S: A vote for the Greens is a vote for the ALP, etc as well....so with preferences, you're either a Lib or you're an ALP voter...simple as that.

Not quite that simple. I vote Green because I am desperately worried about the state of the world that my grandchildren and great-grandchildren will inherit.

If enough of us vote Green we will make the major parties sit up and take notice.

(PS we neeed a tree hugging smiley)
 
That's only if you vote above the line anyway. There are people intelligent enough to fill out all the boxes too.
 
t-rob said:
Not quite that simple. I vote Green because I am desperately worried about the state of the world that my grandchildren and great-grandchildren will inherit.
If enough of us vote Green we will make the major parties sit up and take notice.
(PS we neeed a tree hugging smiley)

And where do the Green votes go?

Preferenced to the ALP....
 
Liverpool said:
And where do the Green votes go?

Preferenced to the ALP....
the
They go to who ever I choose only simpletons follow the card.

And it differs every election.

But you have missed the point, voting does not have to be a simplistic Lib v Labour choice.
 
Liverpool said:
And where do the Green votes go?

Preferenced to the ALP....

Not always, often they preference Libs because they are disappointed that the ALP doesn't go far enough. Personally I think its an idiot approach, but they seem to think they need to let the ALP know they cannot take their preferencing for granted.

Most elections Greens issue a split preferencing (some Lib some ALP) with the mix and choices dependant upon the issue of the day.
 
Liverpool said:
Rosy,
Like yourself....Remote is also someone who continually bags Howard/Libs, never post anything bad about the ALP......and then claim you are open-minded.
...

Of course, you'll come back and say I'm biased and you haven't decided who you are voting for, but we both know thats a load of sh!t.
.....

I wouldn't have a clue who, if anyone, I'll be voting for and no matter how much you care to play psychoanalyst you don't either.  I wouldn't have a clue who Remote will be voting for either and unless he's said who it will be you wouldn't know either.  Has Remote actually claimed he's open minded?
 
rosy23 said:
I wouldn't have a clue who, if anyone, I'll be voting for and no matter how much you care to play psychoanalyst you don't either. I wouldn't have a clue who Remote will be voting for either and unless he's said who it will be you wouldn't know either. Has Remote actually claimed he's open minded?

Rosy,
If someone over a period of time continually bags one party, calls their leader Little Johnny Bonsai...and has claimed they will NOT vote for the Libs because of the GST (while not posting ONE story against the ALP)........then how can that person turn around and say they are open-minded, and accuse others of being bisaed, when they themselves are equally as biased the other way?
I don't need to be a psychoanalyst expert to note that you are NOT open-minded then and have already made decisions towards who you are going to vote for in the election.

The difference between you and I Rosy is simply, that I am open and honest in my 'biasness' as I have stated who I am voting for.
 
Liverpool said:
....(while not posting ONE story against the ALP


Crap Livers.  I posted that I didn't like Rudd's appendage comment.

As for the rest it's piffle.  You simply wouldn't have a clue who people will vote for unless they reveal that info themselves.  You didn't answer my question.  Has Remote claimed he's open minded as you said?
 
Livers, my preference will go to whomever i choose. others will follow the how to vote card and others will choose in other ways.

it's presumptuous of you to assume otherwise, and gives little credit to the intelligence of yr fellow australians.
 
rosy23 said:
Crap Livers. I posted that I didn't like Rudd's appendage comment.
As for the rest it's piffle. You simply wouldn't have a clue who people will vote for unless they reveal that info themselves. You didn't answer my question. Has Remote claimed he's open minded as you said?

So Rudd's comment on his appendage is the only anti-ALP thing you have come up with in the last year on here?
And you claim you are open-minded..... :rofl

As for Remote....he is as open-minded as you Rosy... ;)
 
rosy23 said:
Time for more accuracy and less fabrication from you Livers.

What is inaccurate about my comment?

Your disappointment about Rudd's 'appendage" comment has been the ONLY anti-Rudd, and dare I say i, only anti-ALP post this year.

Yet I can read post after post of anti-Howard jibes and Little Johnny Bonsai comments on any page I look.

And you still want to claim you are not biased and are open-minded? ;)
 
Six Pack, how about you put forward some arguments to back up your pissy little comments.
 
Liverpool said:
What is inaccurate about my comment?

You just make it up as you go along. You comment twice (below) about not one anti-Rudd comment then you talk about an "ONLY" anti-ALP post....and btw it's not the only one. ;)

I assume you're also inaccurate stating Remote has claimed to be open minded considering you haven't answered the question satisfactorily. Simple really...has he or hasn't he made the statement you claim? Fact or fabrication on your behalf?

Liverpool said:
Rosy,
If someone over a period of time continually bags one party, calls their leader Little Johnny Bonsai...and has claimed they will NOT vote for the Libs because of the GST (while not posting ONE story against the ALP)........

Liverpool said:
Rosy,
Like yourself....Remote is also someone who continually bags Howard/Libs, never post anything bad about the ALP......

Liverpool said:
Your disappointment about Rudd's 'appendage" comment has been the ONLY anti-Rudd, and dare I say i, only anti-ALP post this year.

How can you claim it's my "ONLY" anti post when you've claimed I've had none? Obvious inaccuracy and fabrication over fact.


Liverpool said:
Yet I can read post after post of anti-Howard jibes and Little Johnny Bonsai comments on any page I look.

Any page? :blah

The context of your full post indicates you mean posts and jibes by me "on any page" and that's more crap Livers. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story though will you. :pinnochio
 
rosy23 said:
You just make it up as you go along. You comment twice (below) about not one anti-Rudd comment then you talk about an "ONLY" anti-ALP post....and btw it's not the only one. ;)

Posting an anti-Keating post back in 1994 doesn't count... :hihi

However, I stand by my comments.....you accuse me of being biased and you are right, but with the amount of anti-Lib and anti-Howard posts ont his thread, you re equally as biased the other way.

The difference is, I'm not hiding under a guise of 'open mindedness'.... ;)
 
Are you blind Livers? Have you noticed my questions about Remote and the claims you made about him? Why haven't you answered them? You can change the subject and throw in as many red herrings as you like to avoid it but it doesn't do much for your credibility.

Did Remote claim to be open minded as you posted he did? Only a one word answer required. Yes or no? Oh if it's yes you can throw in one of your beloved links so we can see the context.