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I believe it was in reference to what Van was saying before Thorpe accused him of sexual assault. He was banging on about protecting women in the workplace, basically to attack Labor over the Higgins affair. This line of attack on Gallagher has backfired spectacularly, with the last couple of days' revelations making the Libs seem extremely hypocritical - more so, that is.

Higgins also released a transcript of what she claims is a recording of her discussing her rape allegations with Michaelia Cash, which if true means she committed perjury in Lehrmann's trial. But I'm not sure she's recorded the conversation legally so it may not get anywhere. There's grenades being thrown everywhere in this issue.

Transcript of her talking to a staffer in Cash's office, not Cash personally I believe.
 
Transcript of her talking to a staffer in Cash's office, not Cash personally I believe.
*smile* Coalition apologist.

First day were texts with the staffer only. The ones she released the next day had Cash involved in the conversation as well.
 
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*smile* Coalition apologist.

First day were texts with the staffer only. The ones she released the next day had Cash involved in the conversation as well.
roger that Big Bear.

Hopefully she gets done for perjury, lying biatch. Fantastic to see the Coalition's attack on Labor/Higgins around this is backfiring Ben Roberts-Smith defamation action style.
 
And he had the hide to say what he said in parliament!!

A fool or just a typically ignorant, entitled RWNJ that has little respect for women?
Ironically, many critics of Senator Stoker have described her as a "RWNJ" too (she is very much part of the god squad and is ardently conservative). That said, clearly she doesn't go around grabbing other people on the bum uninvited.
 
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That said, clearly she doesn't go around grabbing other people on the bum uninvited.
Butt, butt, butt. Isn't that standard procedure at an informal out of hours social gathering?? Sip a few drinks, have some nibblies then pat an inviting rump or two n say hello. What the *smile* is the world coming to if you can't even socialise properly any more?
 
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roger that Big Bear.

Hopefully she gets done for perjury, lying biatch. Fantastic to see the Coalition's attack on Labor/Higgins around this is backfiring Ben Roberts-Smith defamation action style.

The way this backfired is pretty spectacular.
 
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The Liberal Party is slowly imploding. Seems like every tactic they try just makes things worse.

A recent poll in Victoria said that only 20% of voters would vote Liberal today. That is 1 person in 5 in the state where the Liberal party was created !!!

They really need to stay away from issues of integrity because their track record is so bad in this space it is almost guaranteed to backfire
 
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Glad I threw an uninformed preference this way (although a view this change does more good than harm). Bring it on. Rather police focus elsewhere and then tax it eventually.


Just do it FFS, the war on drugs was lost decades ago and it isn't like you can't get anything you want if you really try.

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I see Donny junior has an Australian “tour” coming up. Seen an ad for him and special guest Nigel farage. I guess keeping lowlifes and *smile* out of the country is a thing of the past. I suppose if you want to drop a lot of IQ points and lose a lot of dough to the apprentice grifter, good luck to you.
 
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Albo latest turn off YOUR phone for 5 minutes a day.. How did we end up with him ?. Australia only counrty that has a preferential voting system therefore the person with most votes does not win so usually the dumbo who comes second wins. They were once just Labor candidates but now we have Greenies & Teals who cannot determine the difference between being first past the post or a loser.
 
Your ignorance is astounding, preferential is a much better voting system and I notice no evidence for your assertion that the candidate with the highest first preference vote usually doesn't win the seat, clearly you just made this up.

But let's look at first past the post - say you have 3 candidates: the Libs get 9,900 votes, the Nats get 9,910 votes and the ALP get 9,950 votes. In first past the post the ALP win - fair? I think not.

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Your ignorance is astounding, preferential is a much better voting system and I notice no evidence for your assertion that the candidate with the highest first preference vote usually doesn't win the seat, clearly you just made this up.

But let's look at first past the post - say you have 3 candidates: the Libs get 9,900 votes, the Nats get 9,910 votes and the ALP get 9,950 votes. In first past the post the ALP win - fair? I think not.

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Who wins if Libs have 9910 Nats 9910 & Labor 9910 ?.
 
Albo latest turn off YOUR phone for 5 minutes a day.. How did we end up with him ?. Australia only counrty that has a preferential voting system therefore the person with most votes does not win so usually the dumbo who comes second wins. They were once just Labor candidates but now we have Greenies & Teals who cannot determine the difference between being first past the post or a loser.

Thats not even true. There are many countries that operate a preferential voting system, just I think we are the only ones that do it in 1 night.

There are many others that operate with run offs, ie. they drop candidates off when they don't garner x% of the vote, with the aim that the next vote gets a candidate that gets over 50% of the vote. Thats what they are aiming for, they want 50% of the population to make the call as to who is the ruling party, not as the first past the post does, and just accumulates the one with the highest single tally.

For example, in Davids example, only 1/3rd of voters ultimately had their say in who won, as opposed to using preferences to determine who the majority want to win, should their preferred party not come out on top.

The french is a good example of this. A few years ago, there was a bit of a vocal push for a protest vote, and Marine Le Pens National Front party had the most amount of votes and would have won the election in a first past the post vote (from memory she got somewhere between 35-40% of the vote). Runoffs occurred and she ended up losing, the majority of people didn't want a racist running their country.

Preferential voting isn't perfect, but as a democratic voting system, its far more democratic than a first past the post solution.
 
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Albo latest turn off YOUR phone for 5 minutes a day.. How did we end up with him ?. Australia only counrty that has a preferential voting system therefore the person with most votes does not win so usually the dumbo who comes second wins. They were once just Labor candidates but now we have Greenies & Teals who cannot determine the difference between being first past the post or a loser.

Its funny how Liberal voters suddenly seem to have a problem with the voting system now that their team is losing every election. Its a great system when its the other way around, eh? They're quick to forget they only ever get into power via a coalition.

And I would argue the major cause of why primary votes for the major parties has dropped in recent years is due to the antics of the former government got up to during question time.
 
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