Still giving us nothing...'cept Cups and Medals

[23.21.159]

Under final eight

1st - 8 (33%)
2nd - 8 (33%)
3rd - 5 (21%)
4th - 1 (4%)
5th - 1 (4%)
7th - 1 (4%)

Before final eight

1st - 56 (58%)
2nd - 26 (27%)
3rd - 8 (8%)
4th - 6 (6%)
6th - 1 (1%) (weird system in 1900)

Pole position is the place to be.

Yes what a ridiculous system they had in 1900.
Eight teams. Each played each other twice over 14 rounds which was the bulk of the season.
Then they split them into two pools of four - 1st, 3rd, 5th and 7th in one pool and 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th in the other (I would argue even that is wrong).
The teams within each pool played each other once - in what they called "Sectional Rounds".
The top team in each pool met in a "Final" (and in ranking those teams, only the three games in the pools were used - not the original 14).
If the team who won that final (Melbourne) had also finished on top after the 14 rounds, then they were the premiers.
If not (and it wasn't, Fitzroy did), then those two teams would meet in a Grand Final.
Melbourne (who had finished 6th in the home and away games) won.
Every team graduated to the Sectional Rounds, so the ONLY meaning of the 14 home and away rounds was to see who finished first and got the right challenge to play the winner of the Final.
So as soon as you figured you were out of contention for first, the home and aways were absolutely meaningless.
It's a good thing there was no draft then - most games after about round 3, everyone would be trying to lose.

 

[23.21.159]

Under final eight

1st - 8 (33%)
2nd - 8 (33%)
3rd - 5 (21%)
4th - 1 (4%)
5th - 1 (4%)
7th - 1 (4%)

Before final eight

1st - 56 (58%)
2nd - 26 (27%)
3rd - 8 (8%)
4th - 6 (6%)
6th - 1 (1%) (weird system in 1900)

Pole position is the place to be.

Two very different final eights though.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Under final eight

1st - 8 (33%)
2nd - 8 (33%)
3rd - 5 (21%)
4th - 1 (4%)
5th - 1 (4%)
7th - 1 (4%)

Before final eight

1st - 56 (58%)
2nd - 26 (27%)
3rd - 8 (8%)
4th - 6 (6%)
6th - 1 (1%) (weird system in 1900)

Pole position is the place to be.

Thanks. Top two get 66% flag chance between them n fair enough, not enough info to presume the bye before the finals will have any influence on opportunities for lower teams as yet.

 

[22nd Man]

Thanks. Top two get 66% flag chance between them n fair enough, not enough info to presume the bye before the finals will have any influence on opportunities for lower teams as yet.

I don't know why anyone is theorising that the week off possibly advantages the lower teams over the top 4.

 

[jb03]

Under final eight

1st - 8 (33%)
2nd - 8 (33%)
3rd - 5 (21%)
4th - 1 (4%)
5th - 1 (4%)
7th - 1 (4%)

4th surprisingly much worse than third

 

[year of the tiger]

4th surprisingly much worse than third

and we make the result for third much better than it was give our last year results

 

[Ian4]

I don't know why anyone is theorising that the week off possibly advantages the lower teams over the top 4.

people are looking at Footscray from 2 years ago and thinking it could happen again. that was a once in a generation event.

and we make the result for third much better than it was give our last year results

Collingwood will be thinking they could do a Richmond after finishing 13th the year before and 3rd in the h&a.

 

[TigerPort]

4th surprisingly much worse than third

And that was Adelaide in 1997

They won from 5th in 1998

 

[year of the tiger]

people are looking at Footscray from 2 years ago and thinking it could happen again. that was a once in a generation event.

Collingwood will be thinking they could do a Richmond after finishing 13th the year before and 3rd in the h&a.

Yep but their dreaming- lightning doesn’t strike twice

 

[Baloo]

Collingwood have been trying to imitate us all year

 

[lamb22]

4th surprisingly much worse than third

Well 4th plays 1st in the QF. Bigger disparity than 2 v 3.

 

[YinnarTiger]

4th surprisingly much worse than third

And that was Adelaide in 1997

They won from 5th in 1998

Under the old discontinued final 8 system.

 

[TigerMasochist]

I don't know why anyone is theorising that the week off possibly advantages the lower teams over the top 4.

Might not, but there's also the possibility that a team suffering a couple of critical injuries late in the year could drop a spot or two on the ladder. Regaining those players with the extra weeks rest would then strengthen their chances within the finals series as it did for the Doggies.

Poor old Salty Scott will be desperately trying to find a way around the Moggies after bye hoodoo when they front Smelbourne, pretty sure he'd have been far happier to just keep rolling on into finals without the break.

 

[RoarEmotion]

And that was Adelaide in 1997

They won from 5th in 1998

Different final eight system gave them double chance from fifth if I recall correctly.

 

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Different final eight system gave them double chance from fifth if I recall correctly.

Really strange system.
First week was 1v8, 2v7, 3v6 and 4v5.
Lowest two losers go out, highest two winners go straight to the Prelim, the other four go round again the next week.
Adelaide were 5th and by the time they played their final, North (1st) had already beaten Essendon (8th) the night before.
So at the time of their game, Adelaide knew that if they were to lose to Melbourne they would only go out if both St Kilda (6th) beat Sydney (3rd) and West Coast (7th) beat the Bulldogs (2nd).
Highly unlikely and in the end neither happened.
Weird system with many idiosyncrasies, not the least of which was the fact that the 4v5 game meant little.
Rare for either the loser to go out or the winner to advance straight to the Prelim.
And in every year they had it (1994-1999), both 4th and 5th wound up in the Semis.

 

[TigerForce]

What's with 'cheating' in Mick McGuane's article in the Hun:

MCGUANE: WILL ‘CHEATING’ TIGERS PAY PRICE?
RICHMOND has been rolling the dice in the past six
weeks. But do the Tigers have too much trust in their
teammates? We’ll find out tonight.Mick McGuane analyses
the key tactics that will decide the qualifying final.

 

[waiting]

TF I know!

There are a few articles written this week , practically calling , our style ‘cheating’.

Wow.

Our game, handball game is based on moving the ball forward, either by hand or foot. Players know this. It’s our DNA.

Cheating ? Really?

 

[seven]

Anyone complaining we get too many frees?

 

[TigerForce]

Did we play this weekend? I opened the Hun at work today and I see barely anything about us.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

TF I know!

There are a few articles written this week , practically calling , our style ‘cheating’.

Wow.

Our game, handball game is based on moving the ball forward, either by hand or foot. Players know this. It’s our DNA.

Cheating ? Really?

Just an industry euphemism for unaccountable footy, akin to "rolling the dice". Don't think it really applies to us as we don't get cut open on the scoreboard very often.