Oh yeah, they had no idea of the impact of this rule.
The entertaining footy vs ad break - it can be both.
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Steve Hocking
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The entertaining footy vs ad break - it can be both.
The stupid thing is that they think they are a few rule changes away from having footy of the 70's back.
But if you look at replays of the footy back then, as good as it is to watch, you have players standing 5 to 10 metres away from the ball with their hands on their hips. Players had full time jobs back then, nowhere near the fitness of today and therefore nowhere near the intensity.
Furthermore, it's not like we go back and watch the crap games between Melbounre and StKilda, of the Bulldogs vs the Lions.
Yep, we definitely romanticize the past. I can't watch old footy much any more, highlights are good but not a whole match. I don't watch current non-Richmond games these days either though.
yes agree, it is incredible. and on top of that, no impact assessment process, this is standard for any major change in a major organisation, and no transparency. The test bed seems to be a VFL scratch match, its a joke. They just come up with half-baked ideas, tell the press and each other they are great and have been working hard over and over. Its incompetent.
I keep seeing this thread and thinking it's a "complete the phrase" question.
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Watch a good game from the 1970s and they flow well, look good and are exciting.
Watch a bad game from the 1970s and the muddy grounds along with the lack of fitness etc make it awful. Then again, awful games from every era look . . . well, awful really.
Now, I don't think they want the game to look like the 1970s, most of the dickheads at AFL House seem to be more of a mind to make the game look like about 2009 or 2010 if you ask me.
The more goals is definitely a priority because of the ad breaks. Nice idea, but won't work if they turn everybody off the game in the process.
So, the question really becomes - if we take a good game from the 1970s, or even from the 2000s, add in massively higher fitness levels and greater intensity and what do you get? I suspect we would get a bit of a rolling maul because so many more players can now be at just about every contest, something they simply could not do with the fitness levels of the 1970s. The game changes no mater which way you look at it.
But, since I did watch a good game from the 1970s recently, some things were very noticeable. The really glaring one is the way packs are left to form for so long - not the case in the 1970s. Have a look (below) and look about 2.10 in and see how quickly the umpire decides to ball it up when a pack starts to form. The game moves quickly, free kicks are given quickly and taken quickly. There's no rolling maul and it certainly is not a slow game - 31 goals scored too.
Also look at about 8.45 - Keane going for the ball and harassed before he has possession, clear free kick as the tackler also has his arm over Keane's shoulder. Doubt it would be paid now, they would just let a pack form and it would be a mess. Personally I can't see much improvement there.
At 17.15 you can see holding the man/holding the ball has always been an issue!
Anyway, compare the pair - here's the 1974 Grand Final, what do you like or dislike about the style of football being played (apart from the occasional drop kick by Barry Cable, and the result!)?
Can't say that the bombing into the forward line looks a lot different, but there are certainly attempts to get the ball forward with chains of possession.
Anyone wants to add in games from other decades go ahead, let's see what looks better from years ago and what is worse and /or what is no longer viable given the players are now fitter and are full time football players.
DS
PS: anyone here have one of the footies which never came out of the crowd??
Watch a bad game from the 1970s and the muddy grounds along with the lack of fitness etc make it awful. Then again, awful games from every era look . . . well, awful really.
Now, I don't think they want the game to look like the 1970s, most of the dickheads at AFL House seem to be more of a mind to make the game look like about 2009 or 2010 if you ask me.
The more goals is definitely a priority because of the ad breaks. Nice idea, but won't work if they turn everybody off the game in the process.
So, the question really becomes - if we take a good game from the 1970s, or even from the 2000s, add in massively higher fitness levels and greater intensity and what do you get? I suspect we would get a bit of a rolling maul because so many more players can now be at just about every contest, something they simply could not do with the fitness levels of the 1970s. The game changes no mater which way you look at it.
But, since I did watch a good game from the 1970s recently, some things were very noticeable. The really glaring one is the way packs are left to form for so long - not the case in the 1970s. Have a look (below) and look about 2.10 in and see how quickly the umpire decides to ball it up when a pack starts to form. The game moves quickly, free kicks are given quickly and taken quickly. There's no rolling maul and it certainly is not a slow game - 31 goals scored too.
Also look at about 8.45 - Keane going for the ball and harassed before he has possession, clear free kick as the tackler also has his arm over Keane's shoulder. Doubt it would be paid now, they would just let a pack form and it would be a mess. Personally I can't see much improvement there.
At 17.15 you can see holding the man/holding the ball has always been an issue!
Anyway, compare the pair - here's the 1974 Grand Final, what do you like or dislike about the style of football being played (apart from the occasional drop kick by Barry Cable, and the result!)?
Can't say that the bombing into the forward line looks a lot different, but there are certainly attempts to get the ball forward with chains of possession.
Anyone wants to add in games from other decades go ahead, let's see what looks better from years ago and what is worse and /or what is no longer viable given the players are now fitter and are full time football players.
DS
PS: anyone here have one of the footies which never came out of the crowd??
Now get to keep their appointment in the Gold Coast but we have to fly up on the day of rhe game.
That sounds fair to me, climbing off a plane straight onto a footy ground......
That sounds fair to me, climbing off a plane straight onto a footy ground......
I feel like every 2nd week we are flying out of the state.
We still have 2 away games after GC.
Fken hocking
I have heard them call it out. I recall hearing Darcy, BT and others call it out but the AFL don’t do anything about it.
Coz they're just as stupid as the maggots and have no idea of the simplest of rules.
Looking at Gil's eyes in the photo at the top of this thread, it looks like a boning session is about to happen!
It's not just a bad photo, he looked like that all night. Should've been swabbed.
Yes I think he's just gone "Steve, is that your finger up my bum", to which Hocking replies "Yes it is comrade. I'm copying Richmond, everyone else is"
Well we know where the big Covid swab went before it went up Hocking's nose!
