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Saturday, 3rd May
- Thread starter diggler
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After we get beaten by the Doggies, embarrassed by the Dockers, slaughtered by the Saints, a flogging from Hawthorn will be the last straw.
Brittain will have his first game in charge V Port Adelaide in Round 6
Brittain will have his first game in charge V Port Adelaide in Round 6
Brittain you have to be joking me. I hate all this talk about sacking coaches after round 1. It is just ridiculous and we scream when people call us feral... God have a look at the Postings we have seen since last night.
If we do eventually change coaches at the end of FRAWLEYS contract we must go for a proven coach or at least one that is highly credentialled as an assistant coach to a successful senior coach.
I hope no prospective coaches are reading this forum.
If we do eventually change coaches at the end of FRAWLEYS contract we must go for a proven coach or at least one that is highly credentialled as an assistant coach to a successful senior coach.
I hope no prospective coaches are reading this forum.
Firstly, let me say that Danny Frwaley is contracted until the end of 2004. I do not expect him to sacked, in fact I would expect the contract to be honoured.
People say we need a proven coach. The reality is proven coaches didn't want to touch us at the end of 1999 when Gieschen went, they don't want to touch us now. Even 2 unproven coaches knocked back the RFC job in 1999 for the very reason that this post is promoting i.e. sacking coaches.
People say we need a proven coach. The reality is proven coaches didn't want to touch us at the end of 1999 when Gieschen went, they don't want to touch us now. Even 2 unproven coaches knocked back the RFC job in 1999 for the very reason that this post is promoting i.e. sacking coaches.
I say wait until the end of the year and then see what is best. Until then will someone give Danny a fn clue!! How many years does it take to work out that you need more options going forward then Richo!!?? Why can't we have other blokes leading out of a pocket... anyway if we trip over another game plan sometime soon it'll be ok... don't panic for now atleast alot of them looked like they wanted it in the first half(now they just have to remember to play good footy at the same time)
Having said all that I was surprisingly emotionless as the disaster unfolded and couldn't help but think of the constant line that had eminated out of punt rd over the last month "all our focus has been on round 1" .... say no more
Having said all that I was surprisingly emotionless as the disaster unfolded and couldn't help but think of the constant line that had eminated out of punt rd over the last month "all our focus has been on round 1" .... say no more
Tigerdog said:
Same here Td, no heartbreak, no anger, just an empty resignation to the fact that there seem to be big problems at Tigerland and if they don't get their act together soon this could be another very long season.
I can't agree with Danny where he said in his interview we were right up there with them.
If we had any decent spirit we should have won.
Collingwood were very ordinary imo, and that doesn't say much for us.
very well said koalalill.Koalalill said:
we are our own worst enemy when in comes to coaches.our problem from the past and by the looks of it it is still continuing is that the coach,s due to our reputation regarding sacking coach,s are afraid to make the hard decisions at the selection table or during the draft because short term they need the side to perform to keep their jobs.
we just need a coach to have the balls to make such hard decisions.maybe with miller at the club danny may finnaly have that support he needs.
I've stood by Spud and defended him endless times(except he lost me with his treatment of Knighter) so this isn't a personal opinion, but just playing devils advocate for a bit.
What "IF" we have another season like last season?
What "IF" a coach can't get the players to play in a competitive fashion?
What "IF" there are internal issues and the coach didn't have 100% support.
Do you honour an extra year of contract just for the sake of not being seen to be the coach sacking club, even if that could cause the club to sink to a rock bottom low?
It's a tricky question really. To me it would look as bad to do something for the sake of reputation, as it would be to replace a coach.
My personal view is that Danny is our coach and I am 100% behind him. For this season. Same with our players.
Every single thing at the club needs going over with a fine tooth comb at the end of the season though, and any actions that need to be taken in any department to better our club need to be considered.
Of course that is very hypothetical, I still expect a big season and finals appearance.
I always believe we'll win.
What "IF" we have another season like last season?
What "IF" a coach can't get the players to play in a competitive fashion?
What "IF" there are internal issues and the coach didn't have 100% support.
Do you honour an extra year of contract just for the sake of not being seen to be the coach sacking club, even if that could cause the club to sink to a rock bottom low?
It's a tricky question really. To me it would look as bad to do something for the sake of reputation, as it would be to replace a coach.
My personal view is that Danny is our coach and I am 100% behind him. For this season. Same with our players.
Every single thing at the club needs going over with a fine tooth comb at the end of the season though, and any actions that need to be taken in any department to better our club need to be considered.
Of course that is very hypothetical, I still expect a big season and finals appearance.
I always believe we'll win.
I honestly think that 4 years is ample time to prove yourself as an afl coach.
Looking at the state of the list, and how the team has progressed over the last 3 years I think that Frawley knows he is in a lot of trouble and its all of his own making. If we don't make the finals I don't think the football world or more importantly prospective coaches will look to harshly upon the club if Frawley is sacked.
Looking at the state of the list, and how the team has progressed over the last 3 years I think that Frawley knows he is in a lot of trouble and its all of his own making. If we don't make the finals I don't think the football world or more importantly prospective coaches will look to harshly upon the club if Frawley is sacked.
regarding britton as proved last night not even pagan has a hope of getting the blues off the bottom.Harry said:
to say britton comes from a losing background is laughable.was he or was he not part of the team that played regular finals?
At the risk of repeating myself Frawleys contract is as follows:
Wins
Ladder position more for finals etc
Increase in membership
increase in Club gear sold etc
He will be one of the highest paid coaches if the above go his way.....however on the flip
His contract can be terminated if certain on field objectives are not achieved he is well aware of this and his assistants are also aligned with him....if he goes they go.
Wins
Ladder position more for finals etc
Increase in membership
increase in Club gear sold etc
He will be one of the highest paid coaches if the above go his way.....however on the flip
His contract can be terminated if certain on field objectives are not achieved he is well aware of this and his assistants are also aligned with him....if he goes they go.
On the risk of getting banned . RANT ON
F.. off, diggler, laffs and co. What you are asking is the exact reason why the only coach that was willing to take on the job was an assistant to tony shaw. We have to stop sacking coaches. The administration knows this, other players know this why cant you see this. If at the end of the year Danny doesn't have his contract renewed well so be it but dont sack him mid season.
You keep mentioning sheedy for coach, that aint going to happen. The man will retire when he leaves the Bombres. Terry Wallace left that Daggies when times started to get hard. Lethal enjoys the sun and Mickey Malthouse is at a club that the players, board and the supporters back him. Why come here.
In the entire time I have read your on screen personalities all I have seen is negatives from you about the club, coach, players you dont like ( hold on I cant think of a player you do like).
Everthing the Tigers do is wrong according to you so from my view why to f.. do you support us at all ! We can do without your support ., if you can send me your cut up membership card I'll refund you the money from my own bank account.
I called you grinch, once and then thought bad about but guess what I was right.
RANT OFF
Lets get Ready to Roar
Khan
F.. off, diggler, laffs and co. What you are asking is the exact reason why the only coach that was willing to take on the job was an assistant to tony shaw. We have to stop sacking coaches. The administration knows this, other players know this why cant you see this. If at the end of the year Danny doesn't have his contract renewed well so be it but dont sack him mid season.
You keep mentioning sheedy for coach, that aint going to happen. The man will retire when he leaves the Bombres. Terry Wallace left that Daggies when times started to get hard. Lethal enjoys the sun and Mickey Malthouse is at a club that the players, board and the supporters back him. Why come here.
In the entire time I have read your on screen personalities all I have seen is negatives from you about the club, coach, players you dont like ( hold on I cant think of a player you do like).
Everthing the Tigers do is wrong according to you so from my view why to f.. do you support us at all ! We can do without your support ., if you can send me your cut up membership card I'll refund you the money from my own bank account.
I called you grinch, once and then thought bad about but guess what I was right.
RANT OFF
Lets get Ready to Roar
Khan
We need to ensure Wallace wants to coach us before we sack frawely. I say have Miller start negotiations now with Wallace. If he's interested give frawely 4 weeks notice.
The Doggies were one of the most attacking sides in the comp under Wallace and its time to see richmond attack - we are too defensive and reactive.
People say that RFC have a bad reputation in sacking coaches. I say if you recruit duds then eventually you will sack them. Who cares what the footy public thinks.
Hopefully Miller will have the respect and reputation that would enable us to lure wallace.
The Doggies were one of the most attacking sides in the comp under Wallace and its time to see richmond attack - we are too defensive and reactive.
People say that RFC have a bad reputation in sacking coaches. I say if you recruit duds then eventually you will sack them. Who cares what the footy public thinks.
Hopefully Miller will have the respect and reputation that would enable us to lure wallace.
Laff said:
Let me get this straight Laff - you know the finer details of Danny Frawley's contract. Were you there when it was signed and sealed ???
Perhaps you did the proof reading Laff ??? So don't stop now Laff why don't you give us the $ and cents - seeing you know exactly what it says.
I have no doubt that the club could terminate the contract anytime - but the question is will they? The answer to that after round 1 would be resounding NO.
