Robin Nahas

[rockstar_tiger]

Contrasting to that, though, was his set shot from the opposite pocket in the second quarter. Last year Nahas would've sprayed it. This year he slotted it easy as you like.

He had a brain fade. He's not the first player ever to have one. Calls for him to be dropped for that act are a bit over the top, in my opinion...I reckon Hardwick would have had a quiet word to him after the game, and more importantly Nahas himself will look back on it and realise he could have done better.

If he keeps doing it, then he definitely should be dropped, though.

If you look at what players do in isolation, everyone can look good.

Nahas repeatedly misses easy shots on goal that small forwards are expected to get. Just because he fluked a set shot from the boundary (first time I ever remember him doing it) doesn't change the fact his goal accuracy is hovering around 50-55%.

For a goalkicker, his goalkicking skills are shocking.

And for a defensive forward, his tackling pressure goes from excellent one week and non-existent the next.

 

[skybeau]

If you look at what players do in isolation, everyone can look good.

Nahas repeatedly misses easy shots on goal that small forwards are expected to get. Just because he fluked a set shot from the boundary (first time I ever remember him doing it) doesn't change the fact his goal accuracy is hovering around 50-55%.

For a goalkicker, his goalkicking skills are shocking.

And for a defensive forward, his tackling pressure goes from excellent one week and non-existent the next.

That works two ways though. If you look at a mistake in isolation, even Gary Ablett can look second-rate. But if you prefer to see Nahas' successes as flukes, then I can't really convince you otherwise.

This year Nahas is converting at 66%. Shows (to me, anyway) that he's working on his conversion. The thing is, his role isn't a marking one, where he can have settled shots at goals, he's an opportunist who takes arguably more difficult shots at goal, the half chances, the quick snaps. This year he's kicking more of them than he's missing, in contrast to last year.

As for his tackling...it is inconsistent. But he's still averaging close to 4 a game (the players above him on the list are midfielders and defenders, apart from Jack), in a forward line where the main target is often mobbed, which allows the defense to maintain possession out of the back half. I reckon with an extra tall target or two, the spillages from the more even contests will allow Nahas to tackle and exhibit the defensive abilities we all know he has on a more regular basis.

I also don't agree with this mindset of moving Nahas up the ground. He's a forward pocket, and should remain there until someone surpasses him. He can't (physically and footy-wise) play any another position. Keep him where his strengths are.

 

[D85]

pointing to varcoe and byrnes from geelong is all well and good, but im not sure they were doing all that much in their 2nd season of AFL...

im sure nahas will learn from his brainfade in the forward pocket and move on from it.

 

[Scribblar]

Has Nahas lost a yard this year?
???

 

[Tigers of Old]

Has Nahas lost a yard this year?
???

I think he has. Doesn't seem to have the zip of last year IMO.

 

[btoz_01]

I think he has. Doesn't seem to have the zip of last year IMO.

It could be as a result of Nahas playing up the ground maybe he doesnt have much stamina.
Last year when he was the playing the crumbing role and only staying in the forward line he was very fast.

 

[Tigers of Old]

It could be as a result of Nahas playing up the ground maybe he doesnt have much stamina.
Last year when he was the playing the crumbing role and only staying in the forward line he was very fast.

In other words he's not fit enough.

 

[SPARTACUS]

Problem with Nahas, he has gotten ahead of himself, thinks he is an AFL midfielder and is nowhere near that standard, needs to get back inside the 50m arc, that why he was drafted we lack crumbers every time the ball comes off marking contest, this also brings into question the judgement of our forward coaches

 

[TigerMasochist]

Problem with Nahas, he has gotten ahead of himself, thinks he is an AFL midfielder and is nowhere near that standard, needs to get back inside the 50m arc, that why he was drafted we lack crumbers every time the ball comes off marking contest, this also brings into question the judgement of our forward coaches

Before you decided to jump in and slag off at Nacho, did you ever consider the possibility Fartacus that the coach may have required Nacho to join the midfield rotations at times, or maybe even just press up into the midfield as part of the new zoning structures.
I've got a strange feeling in my gut that if Nacho or any other player just decided all by himself to roam anywhere around the field his ego liked that Dimma would rip him into line in a big hurry, but then again that strange feeling may just be wind.

 

[ZeroGame]

It could be as a result of Nahas playing up the ground maybe he doesnt have much stamina.
Last year when he was the playing the crumbing role and only staying in the forward line he was very fast.

Could be cause he's put on weight

 

[Phar Ace]

Problem with Nahas, he has gotten ahead of himself, thinks he is an AFL midfielder and is nowhere near that standard, needs to get back inside the 50m arc, that why he was drafted we lack crumbers every time the ball comes off marking contest, this also brings into question the judgement of our forward coaches

Agree with TM - this is an absurd view, and what even makes you think you know what Nahas thinks he is?

I'll bet you London to a brick Nahas' attitude is still one of being grateful of getting a game.

And people questioning his fitness, ever heard of stamina and the lack of it - doesn't make you unfit, just unsuited as yet. Every AFL player I've spoken to comments on the how important three pre-seasons are to have adequate (not elite but adequate) stamina for the way AFL is played today. What we seeing of Nahas right now is the price paid for development.

 

[Tigers of Old]

And people questioning his fitness, ever heard of stamina and the lack of it - doesn't make you unfit, just unsuited as yet.

Yeah. Maybe he's just unfit too (to play that role) pharacio.
Robin himself has said at times he hasn't been the hardest worker on the track.
I actually think he does look short of a gallop at times in the game.

Could be cause he's put on weight

He has? Where? ;D

 

[Phar Ace]

Yeah. Maybe he's just unfit too pharacio.
Robin himself has said at times he hasn't been the hardest worker on the track.

How many game veteran is he again? Been thrown into the midfield already.........................?

 

[Tigers of Old]

How many game veteran is he again? Been thrown into the midfield already.........................?

Hasn't been thrown into the midfield all that much.

 

[D85]

i think if we ignore spartacus he mite go away? seems to like a bit of troll action...

 

[Phar Ace]

Hasn't been thrown into the midfield all that much.

But enough to cause an affect.

 

[Tigers of Old]

But enough to cause an affect.

because he's not fit enough. :spin

 

[Phar Ace]

because he's not fit enough. :spin

or lacks the stamina required for an expanded role - your turn for the last word ;D

 

[SPARTACUS]

Before you decided to jump in and slag off at Nacho, did you ever consider the possibility Fartacus that the coach may have required Nacho to join the midfield rotations at times, or maybe even just press up into the midfield as part of the new zoning structures.
I've got a strange feeling in my gut that if Nacho or any other player just decided all by himself to roam anywhere around the field his ego liked that Dimma would rip him into line in a big hurry, but then again that strange feeling may just be wind.

Hence the judgement of our coaching staff, if they're pushing him up the ground, then they are partly to blame, but his sucsess last year came from crumbing and forward pressure, these things have disappered from his game, if he has been told to push up the ground he has to work a lot harder to get back to the contest, I hope he is not to blame but his approach to the game does not indicate that.

 

[Tigers of Old]

or lacks the stamina required for an expanded role - your turn for the last word ;D

;D

I can see what Dimma is trying to do with Nahas. Not too many small specialist forward pockets out there who can't run on the ball for small periods unless they are exceptional. If Robin's to survive he'll need to show he's capable of that. So far he hasn't really..