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Rhyan Mansell welcome to Tigerland
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You wanted me to read through pages, just for this?
I reckon pressure acts sometimes miss the mark. Someone like Jack gets a lot because a lot of ball is kicked to him, so if it hits the ground he has more chances for the stat. Dusty likewise- he is always near the ball, so if he doesnt win it he can get an easy pressure act.
For long stretches of the game the Blues couldnt clear their backline. teams cant clear the ball when forwards commit to running hard to space once the backs win the ball. there is no stat for it, and it is really hard for fans to know who is doing it well, It is hard to know how much Mansell contributed, but i reckon the MC would have very pleased with this aspect of our game.
I didn't care if you read it or not, Brodders. I just had no intention of repeating myself!You wanted me to read through pages, just for this?
I reckon pressure acts sometimes miss the mark. Someone like Jack gets a lot because a lot of ball is kicked to him, so if it hits the ground he has more chances for the stat. Dusty likewise- he is always near the ball, so if he doesnt win it he can get an easy pressure act.
For long stretches of the game the Blues couldnt clear their backline. teams cant clear the ball when forwards commit to running hard to space once the backs win the ball. there is no stat for it, and it is really hard for fans to know who is doing it well, It is hard to know how much Mansell contributed, but i reckon the MC would have very pleased with this aspect of our game.
I was just posting data, not reaching conclusions. Watching on the tele it's impossible to tell what he did off the ball. If he continues to be be picked we'll have our answer.
It's only a small thing, but he executed basic skills and didn't make any bad decisions in those final 2 minutes.
That's noteworthy I think
We'll find out if he contributed enough defensively when the Round 2 teams are announced
That's noteworthy I think
We'll find out if he contributed enough defensively when the Round 2 teams are announced
Apart from what you mention about the last 2 minutes he didn’t seem to contribute offensively at all. I watched on TV so hard to determine how he we went defensively. The issue is that our forward line connection and execution was a mess, an absolute dog’s breakfast. We smashed Carlton in inside 50s and could only kick 8 goals. That is horrible. Scumwood doubled our score from 4 less inside 50s.
We need to improve our efficiency inside 50. Mansell doesn’t help that. He is a limited defensive footballer in an era where rule changes, such as stand, have severely limited that role. Witness the decline of George post 2020 to the point that he retired prematurely. I believe that his diminished ability to impact games via his major strength had a bearing on his decision.
Clarke or Cumberland are attacking players with natural goal sense and the ability to hit the scoreboard. That is what we need. Mansell is neither of those.
The more i think of the game the more i can see Mansell had one job on Thursday night and that was to quell Saads offensive run all night. Dont think the coaching panel were concerned with any other input from him. I did bag him all night but perhaps he was following orders. I think Mansell will play on a needs basis unlike George who was a mainstay.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think Mansell should be in the team. But our execution forward of centre has nothing to do with Mansell. This was on our midfield. They couldn’t hit a target. Their footskills was a mess.
No the execution was not on Mansell. The delivery from the midfield was poor and finishing from forwards was no better. Graham, Bolton, Lynch and Miller all missed sodas. But my point is that Mansell took the place of Cumberland or Clarke who are both very good finishers and will give us a lot more in that area than Mansell ever could.
Cummo or Clarke might be better, Mansell may get dropped, or he might be persevered with and improve in the role, but criticism has been a shade harsh IMO. Wasn't terrible, did a few good things.
Mansell. Interesting player. An undersized tall back, strong in the air and with elite judgement - in the air. But a player who simply cannot win or use a ground ball. Not just a delist but a bloke who discredits whose who recruited him.
We all know who he is.
A small back? Insane. He does not know who his opponent is and cannot get near the fall anyway. He was good as a small back in the VFA? No, he wasn't he was eternally out of position and lost sight of any ball under the altitude of 2m. Disaster.
Did he pick fights? Who cares. He lost them all. Why anybody would keep him on the list after 2022 is a mystery.
Dimma loves him because he is a game under skilled HBF. But he has no ground game. Delist. And then the MC tried Mansell at SENIOR level as a defensive small forward in 2023 preseason. And. For the first time in his life Mansell won ground ball. And he could red ground play. Get involved.
On the back of this absurd development the MC played him on the park in R1 and the bloke was mediocre. And he was dropped.
Rhyan Mansell got the ultimate cuddle today - late sub. So he was very fresh. His confidence must have got a great boost.
He was terrific. Fresh and busy. And winning groundball.
If Nigel can level up he gives us great support for Maurice Rioli the Younger. And that will make things interesting.
In conclusion - Bravo, Nigel.
We all know who he is.
A small back? Insane. He does not know who his opponent is and cannot get near the fall anyway. He was good as a small back in the VFA? No, he wasn't he was eternally out of position and lost sight of any ball under the altitude of 2m. Disaster.
Did he pick fights? Who cares. He lost them all. Why anybody would keep him on the list after 2022 is a mystery.
Dimma loves him because he is a game under skilled HBF. But he has no ground game. Delist. And then the MC tried Mansell at SENIOR level as a defensive small forward in 2023 preseason. And. For the first time in his life Mansell won ground ball. And he could red ground play. Get involved.
On the back of this absurd development the MC played him on the park in R1 and the bloke was mediocre. And he was dropped.
Rhyan Mansell got the ultimate cuddle today - late sub. So he was very fresh. His confidence must have got a great boost.
He was terrific. Fresh and busy. And winning groundball.
If Nigel can level up he gives us great support for Maurice Rioli the Younger. And that will make things interesting.
In conclusion - Bravo, Nigel.
His subbing probably validated our lack of hard running and nip in that last quarter - which had been lacking earlier. Made an obvious difference.
Team structure and selection needs a 5 hour think tank session at The London this week. Few things to address and settle on.
Team structure and selection needs a 5 hour think tank session at The London this week. Few things to address and settle on.
Gee Whiz Jack. That was the longest back handed compliment I think I've read on these forums lol.
