Just shows we don't really have great depth and experience means everything. Next game we'll be playing without Rance, Reiwoldt, Grigg, Caddy maybe Houli. That's a huge amount of lost experience. Our windows of opportunity is closing. Those guys and Edwards, Cotchin, Astbury, even Martin and Grimes are in the latter parts of their careers and their best is behind them. This is probably the last year in our current window and unless we can do something to change our form and game style from what we've shown even in the JLT games it is looking very unlikely that we will compete with the best teams.