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QF Game Day - Richmond vs Brisbane Lions
- Thread starter Baloo
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Yep so do some of our supporters. Dimma touched on stats last night when he mentioned we rate other things above contested possessions.
I believe the AFL referred to him as 'manifestly inadequate'.
At least I think that's how it went.
It wasn't just Fagan, J. Brown, Dixon and a few others had them winning the flag after their 5 goal loss in r23
Let them keep thinking about their precious stats. I'd love to play them in the GF, we'd slap them off the G again as they don't know why we beat them. Its pretty clear and our gameplan was to take advantage of something they see as a strength but that we saw as a weakness and that was high defence. We sat inside our D50 deeper than they did. Its no coincidence that the vast majority of our inside 50 entries were long and deep and not looking for shorter targets in that 40-50m area. We pushed into 20m of goal.
Fagan thinks we were more efficient, that's fine. Rock up the same way next time and we will beat them the same way.
Totally agree. The club should complain to 7 and demand an official on-air apology from those 2 flogs. If they refuse, then we refuse to cooperate with them. Maybe not an official ban on the players but I'm sure if the players watch the replay and how Grimes was treated, they can make up their own minds on whether they want to be interviewed before , during and after the game. Much like Nank did with giving roaming brian the brush off that time. Imagine the hooha and embarrassment of flog darcy or *smile* ling going up to player after player in the rooms and getting the cold shoulder.
Yeah it’s was like “ we did everything right? We won all the stats, I don’t know what happened”
Richmond have been ‘losing’ stats for a while now but winning games of football. We value a very different set of stats to the rest of the AFL community
Its almost like they can't see through pure stats. They had the vast majority of their "wins" in stats in the 1st quarter. After that we either matched them or beat them in those stats that they hold dear, contested possessions, inside 50's, clearances etc.
The one stat I remember seeing last night was handball metres gained, we had something like 250m gained in the 3rd quarter alone, from memory the AFL average for an entire game is not much above that. These are some of those other stats that we look at that others just ignore.
So true!
Brisbane basically employed our 2017 game plan against our current game plan ie a high press which is going to yield a lot of repeat entries. I don't mind the high press tactic but we've gone away from it probably because of the injury to Rance. Put simply, if the opposition gets out the back, then you are in deep sh!te, and that's what happened last night with most of our goals kicked within spitting distance of the goal square.
What Brisbane fail to realise is that they don't have Alex Rance, nor do they have GRimes of Vloss and to a lesser extent, Broad. All are great readers of the play who intercept exceptionally well, and when they do leave an opponent to intercept, they are quick. It will be interesting to see if we employ a higher press once Rance is back.
I guess Fagan knew how badly we cut them up last time with our attack off half back, and this tactic was put in place to counter. Great tactical move on our part to realise a high press would allow Dustin Martin to expose them out the back one on one and thus play him deep.
It looked like we might have made a tactical blue ourselves in an attempt to blunt the clearance ability of Lachie Neale. We typically aren't in too close at stoppages which is why we aren't a high stoppage clearance team, preferring to concentrate on the second possession from clearance. It looked to me like we played the clearances tighter to nullify Neale's clearance ability which meant once the ball left the area, it was all Brisbane on the outside and they were off and running. Correcting that after half time, and it was game over.
Obviously Edwards, Cotchin and Prestia were huge in the second half control turn around, but special mention to Josh Caddy, who was cool as a cuccumber when the ball did go the wrong way. Wininng hard balls, and having the sidestep / strength and composure to get it heading accurately back in our direction. I posted a month ago that if he could find form again it would be a massive step towards clinching another flag. His last two games look more and more like the confident swaggering Caddy of 2017.
Deep inside the 3rd quarter now. What stands out (but the commentators for all the $'s they are paid can't comment on it) is how we defended inside 30m of our gaol. Was outstanding defence forcing the Lions to continually take shots from further out. We did the complete opposite down their end, dismantled their defence completely.
Make no mistake, we were on the ropes because they put us there. But we're crafty, and tough. We held on. We leaned on them. We got our breath back. And they did punch themselves out. And as Ali said to Foreman, "Boy, this is the wrong place to get tired."
Just saw Hodge on Ch 7 footy show this morning saying 2 awkward things. (1) most of our goals came from their mistakes, and (2) their midfield was better than ours for most of the game. In other words, we didn't win, they lost.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
All our most important experienced players performed at or near their best
Dusty - tick
Chimp - tick
Edwards - tick
Prestia - tick
Grimes - tick
Vlastuin - tick
Lynch - tick
Caddy - tick
Then you get solid contributions from Soldo, Astbury, Graham, Bolton, Castagna, Rioli, Baker.
The only senior player a little down on his usually high standards was Lambert IMO. A few sloppy disposals. But his usual hard running.
No one will beat us when these guys play near their best.
Dusty - tick
Chimp - tick
Edwards - tick
Prestia - tick
Grimes - tick
Vlastuin - tick
Lynch - tick
Caddy - tick
Then you get solid contributions from Soldo, Astbury, Graham, Bolton, Castagna, Rioli, Baker.
The only senior player a little down on his usually high standards was Lambert IMO. A few sloppy disposals. But his usual hard running.
No one will beat us when these guys play near their best.
I think you're being too harsh because he's a second-year player. I've been guilty of the same with him, including the Petracca call, but he was pretty good last night, especially in the first half.
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