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PRE Supercoach /or dreamteam Comp with a difference. Ideas welcome.
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U2Tigers said:it could work.
but we will need 16 very committed coaches. Especially for the draft. Agreed
It could be hard to get a set time for 16 posters though. Take my tip, no matter how easy you make it, it will be hard for 20% of em. That's why a set time would be important - no one's fault but their own then - but still can catch up - at least it doesn't affect those who are fair dinkum!
I still find it hard to believe we can get this to work as much as I would like to. ???
I am willing to see though. That's is what everyone must sign up to
but we need to get 16 committed coaches first, and I reckon we need to do it as soon as possible as there is working out to be done, and as this will be fairly complicated, we all need to have a very good understanding of the process. Yeah, that is the hard part - there are some real gunna's about!
We need a prize;D
It can be done, and we could start now IMO. Salary Cap won't be a problem I wouldn't have thought as you won't be able to pick guns with every pick obviously.
The only trouble I forsee is positions, but I reckon by going off the Finals Dream Team and last year's positions, with a few adjustments, we could get it pretty right.
And if someone does have too many in one position, maybe just allowing them to drop a player from that position and picking up a player from a "Free Agent" pool to fill their need could work?
I also propose that during the season, every player that doesn't have a team is entered into the Free Agent Pool, and players in that pool can be picked up through the use of trades.
I'd be happy to watch over the draft process and give my opinion on what position they will be in, and make sure we have no double ups.
The only trouble I forsee is positions, but I reckon by going off the Finals Dream Team and last year's positions, with a few adjustments, we could get it pretty right.
And if someone does have too many in one position, maybe just allowing them to drop a player from that position and picking up a player from a "Free Agent" pool to fill their need could work?
I also propose that during the season, every player that doesn't have a team is entered into the Free Agent Pool, and players in that pool can be picked up through the use of trades.
I'd be happy to watch over the draft process and give my opinion on what position they will be in, and make sure we have no double ups.
Have you thought about using another site instead of SC/DT such as fanfooty.com.au
They incorporate a draft....is also a top site for live scores during season for all comps.
They incorporate a draft....is also a top site for live scores during season for all comps.
KiwiTig said:
An interesting site KiwiTig - I found it a bit difficult to navigate what I wanted initially. Is a great add on site IMHO - and like it really only for checking on estimate for Dteam and SC scores - maybe you've got suggestions of how it could work better..........
skip - I like a lot of your ideas.
the pool idea will help it work.
I am sorry, as I started this, but work has called me away until saturday night.
keep nutting it out, and recruit, ( maybe by invitation ? )
I think we can get it to work.
i especially like the idea that we draft now, using last years positions as a guide, then if you need to change any player at the end, we could.
1. first have a trade week.
2. then swap the unable to be used player in the free agent pool.
I am gettig more confident this could work.
It just takes 16 committed coaches, and a set rulebook that everyone knows, understands and abides by.
I will leave it to you over the next three days.
If someone wants to grab it by the horns it would be appreciated, just remember I have a spot. ;D
the pool idea will help it work.
I am sorry, as I started this, but work has called me away until saturday night.
keep nutting it out, and recruit, ( maybe by invitation ? )
I think we can get it to work.
i especially like the idea that we draft now, using last years positions as a guide, then if you need to change any player at the end, we could.
1. first have a trade week.
2. then swap the unable to be used player in the free agent pool.
I am gettig more confident this could work.
It just takes 16 committed coaches, and a set rulebook that everyone knows, understands and abides by.
I will leave it to you over the next three days.
If someone wants to grab it by the horns it would be appreciated, just remember I have a spot. ;D
There is a simpler way, but not preferred by me.
Is just keep the comp on PRE here, and not register it on SC.
We still would use SC scores as provided by fanfooty/SC itself.
It just means more work, by us having to work the scores out.
This however does solve the problem of Salary cap and positions as we wouldn't have those restrictions.
I personally would still love to put our 16 teams on the proper SC site though.
Just throwing ideas around.
Is just keep the comp on PRE here, and not register it on SC.
We still would use SC scores as provided by fanfooty/SC itself.
It just means more work, by us having to work the scores out.
This however does solve the problem of Salary cap and positions as we wouldn't have those restrictions.
I personally would still love to put our 16 teams on the proper SC site though.
Just throwing ideas around.
Do the Comp on PRE - wow that's looking for work - definately against that, not for any reason that I wanna save to sod(s) stuck with that work. My role in the Summer Season was consuming enough - don't do it - there are too many people who won;t appreciate it. Leave the bulk of the work to Supercoach say I!
I'd also be careful about loose ends - especially by doing the draft too early - it will leave too many loose ends that will require the will (or worse - the won;t) of quite a few. That's why I suggested an absolute cut and dry process that won;t require undoing in anyway, and we'll soon see who is fair dinkum.
Again, after my expereince with the Summer Season, make it cut and dry. Administer as little as possible. I'll be in any process you decide on - good luck to the organiser ;D
I'd also be careful about loose ends - especially by doing the draft too early - it will leave too many loose ends that will require the will (or worse - the won;t) of quite a few. That's why I suggested an absolute cut and dry process that won;t require undoing in anyway, and we'll soon see who is fair dinkum.
Again, after my expereince with the Summer Season, make it cut and dry. Administer as little as possible. I'll be in any process you decide on - good luck to the organiser ;D
While draft idea is a good one.All it takes is for one player not to be online at that time to stuff up.I still reckon the best way is for each player to have a side and of that side they select 15 players from that side and the rest can be made up by other clubs.
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
No mate, read my post again........I suggest each draft pick has a time slot, if that someone is not on, then it moves on in 15 minutes, and when he's (she's) back on they can catch up. Rewards the keenest most able, and makes the least able think twice about being involved. Once the squad selection is done, that's the most work done with Supercoach doing the work. Just needs someone to then to keep an eye on trades.
pharace said:
Done Pharace - thats the go.
Lets just recruit the 16 teams.
Lets invite some we know this could suit also.
Will, you sort the draft times out. (leave teams for later, and I will get a poster not involved to randomly place pick our team numbers.
lets go with your idea, obviously a preference list still could be used as well.
U2Tigers said:
Yeah, can do that next week. As I suggested earlier:
Pick 1 - March ??th......9.00am
Pick 2 - March ??th......9.15am
Pick 3 - March ??th......9.30am etc
That's 4 picks per hour, say 12 hours per day, 48 picks per day
480 picks will take 10 days. Depending on how much lead time Supercoach gives us (ie two weeks will give us the 10 days easily) or increase the number of draft choices to six per hour (tad under 7days)
Catch up picks can only be done during the middle 5 minutes of any pick segment - time to be determined by the PRE post time. That way the coach who is ready and has planned well is rewarded with an exclusive initial 5 minute window to place his/her pick without the concern a coach who previously missed their pick grabs the player they were about to pick.
Just a question of how many draft picks and when to commence.
I still say the best way is to have 30 picks done when Supercoach has announced the values - it potentially eliminates a lot of extra work for everyone, but if done earlier, perhaps 15 picks (half the squad) with teams balanced up thereafter. You could have a situation though where a coach is really struggling to balance up his/her squad (ie too close to the cap to even add 15 rookies
.)4 Backs, 5 Mids, 4 Fwds and 2 Rucks
You would probably need an extra draft like the first one for the remaining fifteen players to be added once the Supercoach comp opens, and even a trade period to finish with 16 teams all within cap and position.
The best thing though is to have Supercoach do all the work through the season, and the way it works even if a predictable few go off the rails or AWOL, the core of the group can still effectively play. Though it would be better to have coaches you are confident will see it through.............
pharace said:Yeah, can do that next week. As I suggested earlier:
Pick 1 - March ??th......9.00am
Pick 2 - March ??th......9.15am
Pick 3 - March ??th......9.30am etc
That's 4 picks per hour, say 12 hours per day, 48 picks per day
480 picks will take 10 days. Depending on how much lead time Supercoach gives us (ie two weeks will give us the 10 days easily) or increase the number of draft choices to six per hour (tad under 7days)
Catch up picks can only be done during the middle 5 minutes of any pick segment - time to be determined by the PRE post time. That way the coach who is ready and has planned well is rewarded with an exclusive initial 5 minute window to place his/her pick without the concern a coach who previously missed their pick grabs the player they were about to pick.
Just a question of how many draft picks and when to commence.
I still say the best way is to have 30 picks done when Supercoach has announced the values - it potentially eliminates a lot of extra work for everyone, but if done earlier, perhaps 15 picks (half the squad) with teams balanced up thereafter. You could have a situation though where a coach is really struggling to balance up his/her squad (ie too close to the cap to even add 15 rookies
4 Backs, 5 Mids, 4 Fwds and 2 Rucks
You would probably need an extra draft like the first one for the remaining fifteen players to be added once the Supercoach comp opens, and even a trade period to finish with 16 teams all within cap and position.
The best thing though is to have Supercoach do all the work through the season, and the way it works even if a predictable few go off the rails or AWOL, the core of the group can still effectively play. Though it would be better to have coaches you are confident will see it through.............
I like it.
That gives us time to find 16 players who are committed, develop the rules so all players know them and are prepared. it also gives all of us plenty of time to research players, and come up with our strategies.
Then like you said do the draft when supercoach opens.
The good thing about that is all coaches get to see positions and cost of players and can then use a calculator to keep things on track forthemselves.
I like the 6 per hour - as I'm sure it may be needed. but from memory they do give you 2 weeks before the game starts to join.
we have about 6 players now. Should we put this on the main board or just leave on here and recruit maybe posters we know will be interested.
Disco08 said:
Agree, try and hand pick if possible, as it can be difficult to say no to someone who wants in but has an indifferent track record already. I remember when I did the Dreamteam the first year Phantom was in it (my first year as well) - loved it when someone with so much proclaimed knowledge only did so-so........maybe we should ask Claw, Diggler and Craig :hihi
Hopper, Tigers Of Old and JB03 have been kind enough to help out at times for Summer Season............
So that's so far:
U2 Tigers
Disco08
PharAce
Six Pack
Panthera
Skip (you sure you'll have the time this time?)
Tannerz (as above - you've stuggled of late with Summer Season?)
Capt (as above - but has always responded
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pharace said:Agree, try and hand pick if possible, as it can be difficult to say no to someone who wants in but has an indifferent track record already. I remember when I did the Dreamteam the first year Phantom was in it (my first year as well) - loved it when someone with so much proclaimed knowledge only did so-so........maybe we should ask Claw, Diggler and Craig :hihi
Hopper, Tigers Of Old and JB03 have been kind enough to help out at times for Summer Season............
So that's so far:
U2 Tigers
Disco08
PharAce
Six Pack
Panthera
Skip (you sure you'll have the time this time?)Tannerz (as above - you've stuggled of late with Summer Season?)
Capt (as above - but has always responded
I'll be right for sure! I love my dream team! The Summer Season never really interested me at all to be honest, the whole drafting process was great, but yeah wasn't too keen on the whole game situation from the beginning.
