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Potential Father/Son thread
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easy said:certainly looks and moves like a maurice colt.
he actually takes a contested grab and hits the ground at full tilt, in a maurice'esque 180 deg pirouette, right at the end of the clip also
edit. a bit of scratching about, and it can be confirmed that No14 in the clip is indeed the youngest son of Maurice Rioli, MR Jr. teamsheet has him at 175cm already.
http://aflnt.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/_temp_/2017_AFL_Diversity_Championships_NT_Teams.pdf
take a look at the little cameos, and marvel at genetics, in the clip.
like a few blokes said, search 'AFL next generation' in the SBS homepage and watch the clip. :fing32
Love the candy he sold to the oncoming player.
When he does that in the AFL, I would like the other player to be Adam Treloar.
SCOOP said:
Yep, unfortunately we'll probably do our best to get rid of those picks for ready made players like we always do (ie, Yarran 2 2nd round picks, Prestia pick 6, Caddy 24, Nank 43 nice pick can't fault Nank at that price/pick, etc...)
We have 2 first rounders in this upcoming draft so instead of looking forward to maybe picking the best fwd & best mid available with those picks, the rumours are saying we'll give both of our 1st rounders for Schache. Now Schache does look like he'll become a very good player, moves well, kicks well but is he worth 2 frist roudners? Can't we ever just go the full hog in the draft, especially this year with so many good picks?
Why do we continually go the quick-fix route trading our picks for players? As an example, Parfitt is looking very good already after 3 games who went at pick 26 this year, looks like he'll be a very nice player, Caddy at pick 24 was reasonable value but considering how deep the last draft was, that pick would have netted us Parfitt or whoever else was available; ditto with our first pick 6 we went Prestia, who i like as a player but is 6 years older than whoever we could have got (as is Caddy) so we'll get less years & service out of both Caddy & Prestia, plus Prestia had/has knee problems which are already resurfacing again.
Bottom line is we don't fully invest in the draft. We continually take short-cuts & go the safer quick-fix type options with our trades & picks. I will be eagerly awaiting to see what we do in this upcoming draft. Just hoping the club doesn't waste this opportunity to really build some depth with top end talent in this upcoming draft.
Mikee said:
I agree with investing in the draft. But there's also some consideration as to where we actually are list wise.
Just as an example. Where are our kpp stock? Draft a kf and a kb. At the momen we're light on for kfs, do we wait an develop them for a couple of years or do we go and pay for one that has a couple of development and will fit in with Rance, JR, Cotchin. Martin at their prime? Or do we waste their best years? Quite a balancing act.
Previously I was loath to trade out top picks, then consider the mis mash of success FJ has had with TV, Vlaustin (ok-ish) Lennon, BEllis(ok-ish) CEllis, Elton, Griff, McBean, Batch etc. I jus hope who've takes over can strike gold rather than pick and hope. It left us light on for top end talent an crucial depth, hence the need to fill in the gaps. That's an indictment on both recruiting and development. Hopefully the uilding blocks are now there.
But. There are still a lot of holes on the list. Talent wise and list age spread
Mikee said:
Only problem with this argument is that hawthorn have traded thei Picks for the last 8 years and won 3 cups in a row . We have rance Martin Cotchin and jack now . They will not play forever
It's getting the balance right.
Use the draft, trades and free agency correctly, bottom line get quality in each category , it's why your list manager and head recruiter are just as important as the Coach.
On the F/S and academy it would appear we should get some quality at a reduced price over the next 3 years.
Use the draft, trades and free agency correctly, bottom line get quality in each category , it's why your list manager and head recruiter are just as important as the Coach.
On the F/S and academy it would appear we should get some quality at a reduced price over the next 3 years.
Excellent post Willo. Riewoldt, Cotchin and Rance in their late 20's which must be factored into all list decisions.willo said:
We may have to pay overs for a player like Schache but you are getting somewhat of a known quality with two pre-seasons and 30 odd games under their belt.
Broders said:
I agree. The 2 first rounders also depends on where they fall. If they are both top 5 picks (very unlikely) its without doubt a hell no. If they are both 10-18 then I'd definately consider trading them for the 2nd round pick. You can build a good team with round 1 draft picks (see the Kangas as an example) but its the top 5's that take you from good to a potential premiership team. See Dusty and Cotch. We have a lot of first round picks but how many of these ones are actually matchwinners, Cotch, Dusty, Jack, Grigg, C Ellis, B Ellis, Vlastuin, Lennon, Rioli, Conca, Caddy, Prestia. I would easily say Cotch, Dusty, Rioli and maybe Prestia. Rioli is the only one picked after 10 that you can say he's a consistent matchwinner.
If we want top 5 picks to take that extra step forward we have to pay for it. I'd give up 2 picks between 10-18 for Schache. No problem. If we could arrange a trade to involve a players to bring the cost down then great.
Its easy to get caught up in things when reading forums but I can't say I've heard any rumour that we'd part with 2 x 1st rounders for Schache,only forum opinions.Mikee said:
And as for "continually" trading for quick fixes,what trades are we talking about?
Other than the Yarran trade which was just mind numbingly stupid I can't think of too many other than Hampson & Thomson over the years.
If anything we've been too quiet at trade time especially when it comes to trading players out.
Also I can't actually think of too many times we haven't heavily invested in the draft, its just that our player selection had been below average for too long.
Couldn't agree more. We hang on to blokes for too long, probably hoping they'll suddenly come good.Blind Charlie said:
If they don't fit our long term planning we should put them up for trade (if they have any value).
Maybe we could offer Brisbane a first round pick and some steak knives (there's plenty on the list).
No one wanted Ben at the end of last year. What's so amazingly different about him that would make other clubs queue up for him at the end of this year?mrposhman said:
Considering Brisvegas used pick 2 for Schache and have put two years of development into him. Then I think it'd be pretty obvious they'll want some sort of reasonable return if a club poaches him.mrposhman said:
An early first rounder plus a decent player or two late first rounders would be around the asking price, personally not sure at this stage he's worth that. But there's most of a season to go yet.
Can't for the life of me understand why they or any other club would be accepting left overs that struggle to make any impression, as some sort of compensatory " steak knives " bonus to pad out an under priced offer.
