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Pick 63, 2017 Ben Miller - Welcome to Tigerland.

Rfc4Ever said:
Solid, but can't play him when we have Grimes, Tarrant, Vlastuin playing together.
Gibcus gets more opportunity for mine.
Miller is good for depth for this season.
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Pretty sure there'll be further injury issues at times in our defence so expecting Miller to get some more game time throughout the season. We're also gunna need a key defender size bloke or two ready to slot straight into the side sooner rather than later.
Miller, Gibber n Biggy might be a very tidy threesome playing down back before we know it.
 
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Like many others he's missed out on 2 years of crucial development so I reckon he deserves some slack. The brains trust, who believe it or not, may have most of us on here covered, have persisted with him for a reason and hopefully lastnight showed a little bit of why they did.
 
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spook said:
He's nothing like DTLD.
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Different athletic profile, much quicker and better leap but playing style he is. Stays within his limits, conservative ball use, tries to halve contests. I think Miller is showing what an old fashioned footballing apprenticeship looks like.
 
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He came with all the tools except confidence.
He has stamina and knows when to chase the stoppage in front and when to stay and block or guard. He is a good mark and that will emerge as confidence grows.
He is also a good kick. Again greater confidence will see him use this more.

Most importantly though he has real speed. He has Rance like speed, and this is why he is still on the list.
One thing he does need to work on, well one of many is hand balling on the left.
His speed has meant he has been able get out of trouble without too much focus on this problem.
Expect him to play a 100 plus in partnership with Gibbo.

Hope we can use the mid term draft and a couple of early retirements, to get off the supplementary list?
 
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Scoop said:
Different athletic profile, much quicker and better leap but playing style he is. Stays within his limits, conservative ball use, tries to halve contests. I think Miller is showing what an old fashioned footballing apprenticeship looks like.
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Playing style he's not, though. Dave was a strong marking player, Ben is...not. Ben is faster and a better user.
 
TigerFurious said:
People be praising Miller like he’s some kind of rookie in his first season. He’s not, he’s in his 5th year in our system. His claim to fame last night was keeping Ugle-Hagen quiet. An iPad and YouTube Kids would keep Ugle-Hagan quiet.

The reality is he’s getting a game purely because of injuries and is likely to be retained for a 6th season simply because we have absolutely nothing else. Needs to do better.
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Who were you expecting?
Alex Rance?
 
TigerMasochist said:
Pretty sure there'll be further injury issues at times in our defence so expecting Miller to get some more game time throughout the season. We're also gunna need a key defender size bloke or two ready to slot straight into the side sooner rather than later.
Miller, Gibber n Biggy might be a very tidy threesome playing down back before we know it.
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I expect Gibbo will tire towards the second half. We need Miller to be ready.
 
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momentai said:
He came with all the tools except confidence.
He has stamina and knows when to chase the stoppage in front and when to stay and block or guard. He is a good mark and that will emerge as confidence grows.
He is also a good kick. Again greater confidence will see him use this more.

Most importantly though he has real speed. He has Rance like speed, and this is why he is still on the list.
One thing he does need to work on, well one of many is hand balling on the left.
His speed has meant he has been able get out of trouble without too much focus on this problem.
Expect him to play a 100 plus in partnership with Gibbo.

Hope we can use the mid term draft and a couple of early retirements, to get off the supplementary list?
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When Grimes first started he spoiled all the time until he got the confidence and experience to go for the mark, and he’s turned into a damned good one.
 
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spook said:
Playing style he's not, though. Dave was a strong marking player, Ben is...not. Ben is faster and a better user.
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I've said athletically they are different but I'm yet to see any difference n ball use. Both ultra-safe. And both try to halve contests. Pretty close so far.
 
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TigerFurious said:
His claim to fame last night was keeping Ugle-Hagen quiet. An iPad and YouTube Kids would keep Ugle-Hagan quiet.
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This kind of argument always gets me.

So if Ugle-Hagan played a blinder, you would have said that he's a dud because he was beaten. But even though he completely blanketed UH, you still aren't happy.

Miller can't win either way.
 
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Geez some are pretty harsh on Ben. Hasn’t really put a foot wrong in any of his games.
Sure he’s no world beater, but has done his job and played his role in every game so far. Don’t think we could really ask much more of him.
 
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checkside said:
Geez some are pretty harsh on Ben. Hasn’t really put a foot wrong in any of his games.
Sure he’s no world beater, but has done his job and played his role in every game so far. Don’t think we could really ask much more of him.
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Yeah I prefer world beaters myself
 
King Kong said:
Yeah I prefer world beaters myself
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Would be nice to have 22 world beaters running out every week, but I'm pretty sure the system won't allow you to have this. So we have to fudge around with blokes who just get their basic job done properly n with a minimum of fuss.
 
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Kid should be playing every week from here. Has the tools to be a solid kpf for years. If Grimes returns id love to see Gibcus given a few games at chf and leaving Miller in the backline
 
We're talking about a player who's played 3 games will only get better from here most importantly he has the tool's to work with.
 
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Couldn't really ask much more from a 3rd game key back. I've really liked what I've seen.
Good spoiler, calm head, good closing speed, neat disposal.
Project player pick 63 in the 2017 draft has been developed for when we need him. Tick.
 
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