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Paddy Dangerdive
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how deep a hole can he dig himself? I keep underestimating his entitled selfishness! Seriously you'd reckon he'd have a manager/ publicist to advise him, either he doesn't listen to them or they are just as dumb as he is.
They aren't even in the same ball park.
Cotchin was going for the ball, he had his hands on the ball, while Novak was squaring up Kelly because he just caught him holding the ball.
Its a fair outcome, Novak gets 3, while Cotchin was cleared.
Its Geelong, they struggle with anything that goes against them.
Dangerfields poor technique and timing has tarnished the bump. Stagerfield accelerated head first into a player and is calling it a bump lol.
imo there's room in the game for a well executed bump. Stackman can give him some lessons on this.
Watch how Stackman aims for the body and moves his head out of the way.
imo there's room in the game for a well executed bump. Stackman can give him some lessons on this.
Watch how Stackman aims for the body and moves his head out of the way.
This 100%, with the "down the ground" vision you can see he's actually lined him up & not even considered trying to smother...
"So is it OK to clean someone up as long as you show care after the event?"
within the rules of the game , protecting the head or staying from the head because the AFL has dictated that for some years now ,
and passes common decency test
Tunnelling was something that failed the common decency test , Did Cotch cop a 1 weeker for it ? , frees were quickly paid and it has gone from the game
the two incidents with Danger has had a lot of people (non Richmond) inferring he had crossed the line , on both occasions
Cotchin Shiel , IIRC the club argued that the head contact in that incident was incidental , the shoulder to shoulder wasn't , but Shiel has copped another knock in that qtr causing the concussion , was it that defence that got Cotch off or the mutterings from the press "we want the best players playing" ?
Cotch both initiates contact and gathers the ball and was super low , I think it all helped muddied the waters
a lot of commenrtary at the time was suggesting if it was middle of the season, he gets a week
but before a GF no he gets off , of course we here wanted Cotch to get off , but it wasn't clear cut for the wider football community
another way to contrast the Dangerfield actions/reactions
each round there are 396 players (possibly more with subs) running hard in and around contests
and there is very little knocking players out cold
because they take evasive action . how ever small and it turns into glancing blows
rather than choosing full on , front on contact
each round there are 396 players (possibly more with subs) running hard in and around contests
and there is very little knocking players out cold
because they take evasive action . how ever small and it turns into glancing blows
rather than choosing full on , front on contact
Cotchin saw an opportunity to win the ball and inflict hurt. It was smart and brutal, basically how Cotchin plays. And I hope he never changes.
Physically hurting the opposition is no longer part of AFL? Is "contact" about to be added to the umpires vocabulary?
Dangerfield deserved his 3 weeks, I'd reckon he'd get the chair if PRE decided it.
Come on now. Don’t you know that’s the only “incident “ that’s happened in the last few years
ridiculous. Its the same as its always been, culture and level of scrutiny has changed, but basically a fair hit is still a fair hit, and a dirty act is still a dirty act.
Dangerfield is a reckless sniper. Two games running he has knocked blokes out and more importantly has show zero remorse to those players. Its all been about himself.
I dont want him to receive the chair. Not winning a premiership is enough punishment for me.
On sen this morning HE PROVED TO BE A BIGGER FLOG THAN I THOUGHT POSSIBLE.
We have to protect the head BUT......... concussion is a serious concern BUT.......... we have a responsibility to other players so as not to cause concussion BUT........... we don't want players feeling the consequences of concussion 10 or 20 years down the track BUT...... I did not bump.
My take on his continuous " BUT " comment means it should not apply to my actions.
We have to protect the head BUT......... concussion is a serious concern BUT.......... we have a responsibility to other players so as not to cause concussion BUT........... we don't want players feeling the consequences of concussion 10 or 20 years down the track BUT...... I did not bump.
My take on his continuous " BUT " comment means it should not apply to my actions.
Not sure why you want to raise this topic from the dead again Lazarus, but if you must. Though there is nothing in common with the Dangerfield hit this weekend
Cotchin seeing an opportunity to deliberately inflict hurt is a narrative Christian, Robbo and a few others wanted to get out there. Drama before the Grand Final.
If you've watched Cotch over his career you can with confidence say Cotch was 100% determined to get that ball. That was his only focus. He never deviated off the ball and never looked to see where his opponent was. His dive at the ball, where some think was a deliberately attempt to hit Shiel in the head, is nothing more than Cotch putting his body between the ball and the opposition to secure it. Watch it in slow motion and as many angles as you want, but you will never see Cotch look to see where Shiel was nor deviate off his straight beeline for the ball. Any player with any intent to deliberately hit or hurt an opponent will look to see where they are so they can time that hit right.
He hasn't shown any concern for the players he "bumped" & caused injury to. That shows me what type of person he is.
Skipper is see ball get ball. His body is a log that goes where the ball is. It's what makes him an elite team player. He has no concern for himself.
