Not the year of the Tiger

[graystar1]

Even the most positive of us would think, at this stage anyway, that we are in the Year of the Tiger.
Looking at the rounds so far we have not really beaten anyone, except for the Bulldogs.
The better teams to date Like Demons, Cats, Swans and Lions have touched us up very nicely
We have only defeated the lower teams in the main .
Here are the results to round 10.
Carlton..........+25
Hawthorn.....+29
Sydney...........-45
Port.................-2
ST Kilda.........+86 (best win)
Melb................-34
Bulldogs........+22
Geelong.........-63
GWS................+4
Lions................-28
So, the teams we have beaten are mostly the bottom teams.
As said above the good sides to date , have fixed us up big time.
Hard to mount a case for the Tigers to be rated for a premiership in 2021.
Yes, one can make all the excuses in the world, like injuries and umpire bias, all real.
As I see it right now, is we have a large lump of our players just going.
We are relying so much on Martin, Nank, Baker, in particular to get us over the line.
Apart from Dusty none are really starring and our newbies are not up to it just yet.
To be fair, all teams have quite big injury lists, except perhaps Melb., but the top teams are winning.
Disagree if you wish, but that is how I see the status quo right now in late May.

 

[saigon tiger]

Absolutely agree 100%. We have so many players who are playing scratchy and below par. Bolton when he was playing, Nanks, maybe Bakes, Broad and Arts been on their game. Dusty been a little hot and cold and the rest been poorly consistent with the odd cameo. IM thinking just scraping into the 8 is about all we will achieve this year!

 

[zippadeee]

Even the most positive of us would think, at this stage anyway, that we are in the Year of the Tiger.
Looking at the rounds so far we have not really beaten anyone, except for the Bulldogs.
The better teams to date Like Demons, Cats, Swans and Lions have touched us up very nicely
We have only defeated the lower teams in the main .
Here are the results to round 10.
Carlton..........+25
Hawthorn.....+29
Sydney...........-45
Port.................-2
ST Kilda.........+86 (best win)
Melb................-34
Bulldogs........+22
Geelong.........-63
GWS................+4
Lions................-28
So, the teams we have beaten are mostly the bottom teams.
As said above the good sides to date , have fixed us up big time.
Hard to mount a case for the Tigers to be rated for a premiership in 2021.
Yes, one can make all the excuses in the world, like injuries and umpire bias, all real.
As I see it right now, is we have a large lump of our players just going.
We are relying so much on Martin, Nank, Baker, in particular to get us over the line.
Apart from Dusty none are really starring and our newbies are not up to it just yet.
To be fair, all teams have quite big injury lists, except perhaps Melb., but the top teams are winning.
Disagree if you wish, but that is how I see the status quo right now in late May.

We might not be playing at full capacity or some players are just out of form (short, Astbury, Houli, lynch etc)
But it dosent help when your playing against 23 every single week.
I went to the Sydney game, yes they played well. But every time we looked like we make a come a back, a umpires decision stopped it.
The free kick just before half time in that game, still has me fked? Why?
If we got payed those free kicks, we would average 15 goals a week.
Its clear this is coming as clear directive to slow or stop any challenge this year.
The players are frustrated, Dimma looks like he will burst a blood vessel.
Its hard to watch.
If we were on the decline and our older stars were struggling, i would accept it.
But not been up by 3 goals and the umpires intervening to make sure Brisbane didn't get blown away. Its a joke.
They brought them back into the game and then steered them to a 5 goal lead and then they went into normal umpiring.
They got 6 Holding the man free kicks in the first half.
I cannot remember the last time our defender's got paid 1.
Its sad to watch how they're trying to disarm us.

 

[seven]

Safe to say the good times are over.
We might finish bottom 8 and make up the numbers.

 

[TrialByVideo]

I, like many others, endured 37 years in the wilderness so.....
I'm not giving up until it's a mathematical impossibility!
Much prefer the other thread btw

2021 may be the best yet

Chin up folks. I get it, the hounds are at the door. We just got owned by a team we usually use as a gym session for early season lethargy. Anzac Day Eve was a very disappointing loss - you could see it in Dimma's face afterwards. Melbourne asserted themselves and we had no answer. It was so...

www.puntroadend.com

 

[wayne]

We are now gettable, even without injuries.

From the 2nd half of 2017 till 2020 you could nearly put your house on us every week, especially against anyone in the bottom 10.

Now, a loss to Adelaide, or Essendon in the next two weeks wouldn't be a surprise.

The forward line is a complete mess, bomb to a contest, bring the ball to ground. If this is the game plan, then where are the crumbers?

The soft cap reduction has hurt, Rutten, Caracella, Leppitsch and McRae all gone, as well as the fitness guy to Sydney.

The good times can't last forever, and not many fans get to see 3 flags in 4 years. If we could go once more it would be the best though. Sorry Dees, we're still the king, Cats will again be Sham to our Secretariat, Lions and Port, stick that up ya, you mouthy pretenders, Doggies, no chance with that backline.

 

[thegdog]

Best team in and all fit and firing, we are 4 goals better than any team

 

[btoz_01]

We haven’t adapted our game to the new rules and free flowing play on style at all costs
We still try to play defensive win the ball back from defence and rebound fast to score
With the 6 6 6 rule , backman allowed to run at least 30m out of goal square when kicking in after behind , new stand rule when manning mark allows player with ball to run around and get extra distance Its a definite advantage allowing teams to get the ball further deeper into forward line
All these new rules were to counter our style of play and umps not applying rules fairly doesn’t help either
We need to play 2 rucks as a start because when Nank isn’t rucking we’re getting destroyed at centre bounce and around the ground play

 

[graystar1]

We haven’t adapted our game to the new rules and free flowing play on style at all costs
We still try to play defensive win the ball back from defence and rebound fast to score
With the 6 6 6 rule , backman allowed to run at least 30m out of goal square when kicking in after behind , new stand rule when manning mark allows player with ball to run around and get extra distance Its a definite advantage allowing teams to get the ball further deeper into forward line
All these new rules were to counter our style of play and umps not applying rules fairly doesn’t help either
We need to play 2 rucks as a start because when Nank isn’t rucking we’re getting destroyed at centre bounce and around the ground play

Very good assessment BTOZ.
We don't appear to have adapted to the new rules.
Just bomb it forward and hope for the best.
No wonder we are only beating the lower teams in the main.

 

[TigerFurious]

Not willing to write us off until I see how we go after the bye but the warning signs are there.

What concerns me the most our inability to restrict opposition scoring. When we started our run back in the later part of 2017, back half of 2019 and 2020 we would rarely concede more than 70pts to the opposition, or around 10-11 goals. Right now we are getting scored against heavily, even last week in our win against GWS we conceded 82pts which we just don’t do when in form. A look at the back part of the 2018 season shows that even while winning we started conceding higher and higher scores to opposition before it all came crashing down in the PF.

Good Richmond sides under Hardwick strangle the opposition and don’t concede big scores. Right now oppositions are opening us up and doing it at will.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Not dead yet.
At full strength we're more than capable of playing four finals n winning another flag.
Won't be doing a post mortem on the season unless we completely miss the eight and then the most obvious finding will be that we get some seriously early picks in the draft.

 

[Redford]

It’s not over yet. I sense a backs to the wall anger building again. Must win the next 2, get healthy, re-set.

Us v the world again.

 

[BrisTiger24]

It's all well and good to get the cavalry back but the problem is the cavalry is Dad's army. With the exception of Bolton and to a lesser extent Prestia, the cavalry is aged and battered.

What we have learnt is that our depth which has never been exposed like it is now is underwhelming. We can't rely on these players for our next premiership tilt (after the current one). Means the upcoming draft is our most important in years. We are well placed too. We need to make the right list decisions. Hopefully we don't do what Hawthorn has done and trade out picks for average players.

 

[gutfull]

Not willing to write us off until I see how we go after the bye but the warning signs are there.

What concerns me the most our inability to restrict opposition scoring. When we started our run back in the later part of 2017, back half of 2019 and 2020 we would rarely concede more than 70pts to the opposition, or around 10-11 goals. Right now we are getting scored against heavily, even last week in our win against GWS we conceded 82pts which we just don’t do when in form. A look at the back part of the 2018 season shows that even while winning we started conceding higher and higher scores to opposition before it all came crashing down in the PF.

Good Richmond sides under Hardwick strangle the opposition and don’t concede big scores. Right now oppositions are opening us up and doing it at will.

Rule changes have seen that ! Hard to defend against man with the ball & a statue .
*smile* the AFL all of em!

 

[Redford]

It's all well and good to get the cavalry back but the problem is the cavalry is Dad's army. With the exception of Bolton and to a lesser extent Prestia, the cavalry is aged and battered.

What we have learnt is that our depth which has never been exposed like it is now is underwhelming. We can't rely on these players for our next premiership tilt (after the current one). Means the upcoming draft is our most important in years. We are well placed too. We need to make the right list decisions. Hopefully we don't do what Hawthorn has done and trade out picks for average players.

Fair call. But I think our best with “Dad’s Army” (great show that) is still good enough to beat an average list of challengers.

But yes, take those first 6 picks to the Draft, agree.

 

[zippadeee]

We are now gettable, even without injuries.

From the 2nd half of 2017 till 2020 you could nearly put your house on us every week, especially against anyone in the bottom 10.

Now, a loss to Adelaide, or Essendon in the next two weeks wouldn't be a surprise.

The forward line is a complete mess, bomb to a contest, bring the ball to ground. If this is the game plan, then where are the crumbers?

The soft cap reduction has hurt, Rutten, Caracella, Leppitsch and McRae all gone, as well as the fitness guy to Sydney.

The good times can't last forever, and not many fans get to see 3 flags in 4 years. If we could go once more it would be the best though. Sorry Dees, we're still the king, Cats will again be Sham to our Secretariat, Lions and Port, stick that up ya, you mouthy pretenders, Doggies, no chance with that backline.

So if we don't win it, who does?
*Melbourne, will just find a way to lose 1988-2000.
*Port are proven not good enough.
*West coast away from Perth are GC in disguise.
*Footscary like you said have a very ordinary back 6.
*Sydney more chance North winning it.
*Geelong are Stkilda in disguise they just don't know how to win flags. There 2 of there flags came from beating only Stkilda and Collingwood. 2 clubs that are just useless in September
They are the most vulnerable playing any side in the GF.
And Brisbane, they would cop a GWS result on the G in September
We still have a shot even if we don't finish top 4.
We need at worse finish 5-6
And play the loser of the qualifying finals.
Then the door will open for us.

 

[seven]

Year is over.

 

[zippadeee]

Year is over.

7-11 we have won 5 games with a reserves side.
We string 4-5 games together.
We will motor into September.
If we don't its not all lost, we can regroup and work out who stays and he gets the chop.
We have 6 picks under 50.
We need another ball winner. Green.
We need a quality winger, Cerra
Our round 1 2022 team regardless of this year's efforts will be completely different.

 

[tigerjoe]

Seriously Graystar?

What a pathetic post.

5 of our best mids out, get crucified by the umps..........

Ye of little faith.

 

[AngryAnt]

Seriously Graystar?

What a pathetic post.

5 of our best mids out, get crucified by the umps..........

Ye of little faith.

Yes, by the bye round we will be 7-5 with all our guns back.. People freak out way too easily.