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Little things that annoy you....

easy said:
It was a she, but yes.

people break laws every day, knowing the law is absurd, and the probability of repercussions are so close to zero as to effectively be zero.

have you ever dashed into a shop without locking your car? outlaw. its illegal not to lock your car.

People commit murder everyday as well. Sorry, but being annoyed because someone is following the law that their job/business is bound to is being self centred to the extreme. Be annoyed with the law, not with the person abiding it.
 
Baloo said:
He annoyed you because he didn't want to break the law and get himself into trouble, possibly lose his job/licence to operate? Really?

I am pretty confident there would be no law that says a lid needs to be given. Some places used to claim they couldn't put coffee in a reusable cup. There was never such a law.
 
Baloo said:
People commit murder everyday as well. Sorry, but being annoyed because someone is following the law that their job/business is bound to is being self centred to the extreme. Be annoyed with the law, not with the person abiding it.

self centred? to risk 3rd degree burns to helpless little babies so the turtles can breed?

hmmmmmm

its ok for you to be a little bit annoyed at what annoys me though I suppose.
 
easy said:
self centred? to risk 3rd degree burns to helpless little babies so the turtles can breed?

hmmmmmm

its ok for you to be a little bit annoyed at what annoys me though I suppose.

Again, you're blaming the person who is following the law. Be pissed off at the law, not at the person abiding by it.
 
Baloo said:
Again, you're blaming the person who is following the law. Be p!ssed off at the law, not at the person abiding by it.

Some laws are stupid and deserve to be ignored
 
Roadwork signs left behind(forgotten) after they have finished. Eg, merge to one lane say when say there are three. Go over hill, everyone merging and , yep, no road works !
 
easy,tiger

How would the plastic lid on your coffee cup end up in the ocean? Surely you're responsible enough to put it in a recycle bin? If they gave it to someone else instead of you, they might throw it into a normal bin headed for landfill or onto the ground. And then it might end up in the ocean. By taking it, you're preventing one plastic coffee cup lid from ending up in the ocean.
 
1eyedtiger said:
easy,tiger

How would the plastic lid on your coffee cup end up in the ocean? Surely you're responsible enough to put it in a recycle bin? If they gave it to someone else instead of you, they might throw it into a normal bin headed for landfill or onto the ground. And then it might end up in the ocean. By taking it, you're preventing one plastic coffee cup lid from ending up in the ocean.

Maybe ill ask the lady to stack 10 lids on next time so i can ensure they get recycled

Baloo's point about subverting the law as opposed to the complier motivated me to phone the local council and enquire

about takeaway coffee regulation. I got a helpful regulator who assured me that lids on coffee

Are not mandated by law and she was certain it wasnt a state or federal law.

For those that are interested, its your legal right to refuse a plastic lid on a coffee.

I would also argue that its your moral right to subvert a barista who thinks they are a cop,

And couldnt give a *smile* about the planet.
 
easy said:
Maybe ill ask the lady to stack 10 lids on next time so i can ensure they get recycled

Baloo's point about subverting the law as opposed to the complier motivated me to phone the local council and enquire

about takeaway coffee regulation. I got a helpful regulator who assured me that lids on coffee

Are not mandated by law and she was certain it wasnt a state or federal law.

For those that are interested, its your legal right to refuse a plastic lid on a coffee.

I would also argue that its your moral right to subvert a barista who thinks they are a cop,

And couldnt give a sh!t about the planet.

Then I can't help but agree with your original post. Coffee person was ignorant of the requirements and made up a "law" about needing lids when there is no law. She deserves your wrath. Now whether she made it up or was told that by her boss/franchisee is a different issue but that's her problem.

But as a greenie I am shocked you didn't bring your own cup to the coffee place ;)
 
easy said:
Maybe ill ask the lady to stack 10 lids on next time so i can ensure they get recycled

Well, I was going to suggest you ask for their entire stock of lids so you can be sure they are recycled ;D

Seriously though, she's only doing her job. If someone from management told her that this was the rule, then she's not going to know any different. What do you expect? A hospitality worker on low wages to spend hours crawling through all local, state and federal laws or spend money to engage a lawyer just to find out if she was told the correct thing or not? And in my experience, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if she was told by some idiot manager what to say and then have management deny all when questioned to save their own asses.
 
easy said:
For those that are interested, its your legal right to refuse a plastic lid on a coffee.

I would also argue that its your moral right to subvert a barista who thinks they are a cop,

And couldnt give a sh!t about the planet.

I don't think disposable coffee cups, lidded or not, are beneficial for the planet.
 
I'll just change this to 'BIG things that annoy me' ......Metro Trains or in other words Melbourne's absolutely *smile*ed public transport over the last 3 decades. 3rd world service!!!! I'm currently stuck at work and can't get home all because of a stupid technical glitch in their system.
 
rosy3 said:
I don't think disposable coffee cups, lidded or not, are beneficial for the planet.
The plastic coating on the inside makes them non recyclable.

Working as a Garbo for neally 10 years , people would be amazed at how poor people are with the bin system. Recycles I'd say have about 30% incorrect products in them . For every tonne of rubbish dumped in landfill I'd guess 25% to 40% is recyclable in some way and Organic bins are constantly filled with non organic products, especially in the poorer areas .

A lot of people don't give a rats ass about it, however everyone would be amazed at how much we simply waste.
 
easy said:
Baloo's point about subverting the law as opposed to the complier motivated me to phone the local council and enquire

about takeaway coffee regulation. I got a helpful regulator who assured me that lids on coffee

Are not mandated by law and she was certain it wasnt a state or federal law.

For those that are interested, its your legal right to refuse a plastic lid on a coffee.

I would also argue that its your moral right to subvert a barista who thinks they are a cop,

And couldnt give a sh!t about the planet.

Brodders17 said:
I am pretty confident there would be no law that says a lid needs to be given. Some places used to claim they couldn't put coffee in a reusable cup. There was never such a law.

just ask me in future.....
 
rosy3 said:
I don't think disposable coffee cups, lidded or not, are beneficial for the planet.

no. i dont think anything humans do is. except maybe play footy, which has a sort of a butterfly effect.

Brodders17 said:
just ask me in future.....

i will
 
easy said:
no. i dont think anything humans do is. except maybe play footy, which has a sort of a butterfly effect.

Just think your attitude about the lid is out of whack with the potential issues from the actual cups. Good to see so many places encouraging bring your own cups now.
 
CC TIGER said:
The plastic coating on the inside makes them non recyclable.

Working as a Garbo for neally 10 years , people would be amazed at how poor people are with the bin system. Recycles I'd say have about 30% incorrect products in them . For every tonne of rubbish dumped in landfill I'd guess 25% to 40% is recyclable in some way and Organic bins are constantly filled with non organic products, especially in the poorer areas .

A lot of people don't give a rats ass about it, however everyone would be amazed at how much we simply waste.

Interesting thanks CC. I was eavesdropping recently on a conversation about a telly program. It was about recycling of soft plastics such as glad wrap. Do you know anything about that?

On a similar topic our Council annoyed me a while ago. The installed lovely looking double bins everywhere. We watched them emptied all in together. I asked about it and they said they put it all in land fill. I told them they were deceiving those who made an effort to sort their rubbish assuming they were helping the environment.
 
Brodders17 said:
I am pretty confident there would be no law that says a lid needs to be given. Some places used to claim they couldn't put coffee in a reusable cup. There was never such a law.

this. I'd put money on it. I get no lid all the time. Scared gullible people imagine all sorts of laws and regs that don't exist all the time. Its usually about the PC brigade etc. Its a 2-tiered annoyance IMO, first the law doesn't exist, second, even if it did, the chances of being prosecuted are infintesimally small. (and even if she was prosecuted, she'd probably get $10K worth of free publicity via Today Tonight-style 'Government strongarm laws hurting batter's' story 8-
 
rosy3 said:
Interesting thanks CC. I was eavesdropping recently on a conversation about a telly program. It was about recycling of soft plastics such as glad wrap. Do you know anything about that?

Not sure with the glad wrap Rosy, most plastics are recyclable it's just if the Recycling comqpnys facility actually does it, other wise ends up in land fill. Styrofoam is also recyclable , however very few places do it, there is loads of it in landfill, we are looking into it as we speak.

On a similar topic our Council annoyed me a while ago. The installed lovely looking double bins everywhere. We watched them emptied all in together. I asked about it and they said they put it all in land fill. I told them they were deceiving those who made an effort to sort their rubbish assuming they were helping the environment.
That's rediculous rosy, they may as well go back in time and just have one bin, totally defeats the purpose. There's not many recycling plants around, up here in Wang, trucks come from Echuca, Mt Beauty, Mansfield to dump it