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Little things that annoy you....

martyshire said:
Agreed. I think it is because you get the impression he takes himself too seriously.


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…people. What is it with this species?
When a heavy object like a vehicle is moving in a forwards direction in which drivers enjoy full panoramic visibility walkers in busy car parks actually stop to give way – excellent common sense. Yet try reversing (during which drivers’ visibility is limited) and every man and his dog can’t wait to walk the kids direction into the trajectory of your 1 ton hunk of moving heavy metal and then these idiots have the gall to get upset if you spy them late. Go figure.....
 
'Would OF" "Should OF".

It is 'would've' and 'should've', people. Short for 'Would have' and 'should have'. It is not 'would OF' otherwise it would look like this 'should'f', and that just doesn't make sense.
 
- *smile* that drive around at dusk without their headlights on.
- *smile* in clubs or pubs that are always out to cause trouble and go out looking for a barney.
- *smile* that talk too loudly on their phones in public transport.
 
Tigerdog said:
'Would OF" "Should OF".

It is 'would've' and 'should've', people. Short for 'Would have' and 'should have'. It is not 'would OF' otherwise it would look like this 'should'f', and that just doesn't make sense.

I started a 'Spelling & Grammar' thread quite a while back and it got shot down pretty quickly. It seems a lot of people don't like having these sorts of errors pointed out. Pretty symptomatic of how spelling and grammar are regarded these days.
 
Freezer said:
I started a 'Spelling & Grammar' thread quite a while back and it got shot down pretty quickly. It seems a lot of people don't like having these sorts of errors pointed out. Pretty symptomatic of how spelling and grammar are regarded these days.

People who don't let facts get in the way of a good story. The thread you refer to is 10 pages long and had plenty of discussion before it died of natural causes.

What I don't like, and is against site policy, is when people pedantically pick out comments on the forum to give public spelling lessons. It's often done in a condescending, holier than though way. There are varying reasons some aren't as good as others at spelling and grammar but their opinions are no less important. When contacted about it the culprits they say they were only pointing out the mistakes for the person's own good. If that's the case, and they have an urge to play school teacher, then send a PM rather than risk humiliating someone on the forum.

The amusing thing is that those who take it upon themselves to highlight others' mistakes often make mistakes themselves. They also tend to selectively choose their targets.
 
rosy23 said:
People who don't let facts get in the way of a good story. The thread you refer to is 10 pages long and had plenty of discussion before it died of natural causes.

What I don't like, and is against site policy, is when people pedantically pick out comments on the forum to give public spelling lessons. It's often done in a condescending, holier than though way. There are varying reasons some aren't as good as others at spelling and grammar but their opinions are no less important. When contacted about it the culprits they say they were only pointing out the mistakes for the person's own good. If that's the case, and they have an urge to play school teacher, then send a PM rather than risk humiliating someone on the forum.

The amusing thing is that those who take it upon themselves to highlight others' mistakes often make mistakes themselves. They also tend to selectively choose their targets.

It's not so much a question of spelling, Rosy, spelling mistakes I can handle ... but when people make the infamous would/could/should OF blunder, it's more a matter of, they just don't understand the grammatical context of the words. Similar story with your/you're and there/their/they're.

And I take exception to your last point ... I'll have a go at anyone :).

What really gets me is I have a friend who is an ENGLISH TEACHER and makes these mistakes. I picked him up on it once and he said correct grammar isn't that important these days ... as long as you get the message across.

Sign of the times I guess.
 
23.21.159 said:
What really gets me is I have a friend who is an ENGLISH TEACHER and makes these mistakes. I picked him up on it once and he said correct grammar isn't that important these days ... as long as you get the message across.

Sign of the times I guess.

Ugh.

Grammar is used precisely to get your message across. What hope do students have when their teacher's don't appreciate this?

I am a grammar pedant, but I tend to suppress it.
 
Panthera tigris FC said:
.. What hope do students have when their teacher's don't appreciate this?

I am a grammar pedant, but I tend to suppress it.

Does that apostrophe belong in "teacher's"?
 
23.21.159 said:
It's not so much a question of spelling, Rosy, spelling mistakes I can handle ... but when people make the infamous would/could/should OF blunder, it's more a matter of, they just don't understand the grammatical context of the words. Similar story with your/you're and there/their/they're.

Is that sentence grammatically correct?  I wouldn't have a clue, I don't profess to have any superior skills in that area, but I'm struggling to understand it.  

Maybe people don't understand the grammatical context of words.  Maybe they have learning difficulties.  Maybe they've had limited education opportunities.  Maybe they weren't thinking straight at the time. Maybe the spell checker preempted the word.  Who knows about individual circumstances.

I always notice when people say we loose a game but don't feel any need to highlight it on a thread.  Not too many of us would be perfect.  I can't see any value at all in publicly singling out grammatical errors on the forum.  It might make us feel good to show off our superior ability in that field but it doesn't add much to the discussion.

We had a poster leave the site once because he felt his poor grammar, due to learning difficulties, got more attention than his actual comments.  He told me it was too humiliating.  I found that extremely sad.

(Edit- My last 2 posts probably belong more on the grammar thread but I wanted to comment on the relevant posts. I am genuinely interested in the use and context of words and grammar and think it's a good topic for general discussion. I like to learn. )
 
Rosy, you're right ... that apostrophe should not have been there.

But I cannot resist ... in your third paragraph, "loose" should have been "lose". Of all the words I can think of, Richmond fans should know how to spell "lose" - ha ha!

As for my potentially grammatically incorrect post, maybe you've mixed up where I was quoting incorrect phrases as opposed to whether or not the words were part of the sentence. But on a re-read it still seems OK to me.

Agree on your thoughts about people with learning difficulties ... but the "would/could/should of" thing is not a spelling mistake, it's not knowing what the word is.

The proliferation of the internet (forums, emails, etc), has brought this issue in to light. We now see much more examples of the written word from members of the general public, and it's that which makes us realise the level that the average person is at. Isn't it a good thing to learn the correct way? I have been battling with Danish for 20 years (NOT an easy language to learn) and quite frankly I am happy when the locals pick me up on my mistakes (annoys me a bit when my kids do it though).