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Liam McBean
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I think a lot of us simply want him to show us more at VFL level so he demands to get picked. He just isn't doing that.Baloo said:
"But the delivery is poor", "he is someone who will play better with better players around him" etc etc just doesn't cut it with me. When he carves it up for the VFL side the he should get picked. I went to the VFL game yesterday and he is cruising around imo, he is showing the lack of desperation traits that Vickery is getting criticised for on here.
He needs to fire up because the kid has talent !!!!
Sintiger said:
He 203cm tall and he ran two little blokes down from behind. I think you confuse the body language of a guy that is 203cm with someone lacking desperation.
Jake King sure has a lot to answer for.
Must say Beanie does get a very good workout on match day. Most of his day is spent covering small and mids running out of 50, clearly Beanie's forte.
As to Oldies Jack Dyerism, I actually thought the same watching Beanie yesterday. But I can tell Oldy that when Beanie relied on Beanie instincts he was always where the ball was at, usually before anyone else was. He is being Hardwicked and Clarked and Baileyed to an inch of his life. Instinct is an enemy of the Hardwick!
lamb22 said:
He definitely looked hesitant Lamby, God knows what tripe they're drilling into him.
Until we have a regime change McBean and McKenzie will continue to get crucified at VFL.
FFS can we get Vickery and the Hampster to rotate ruck and a kick behind the play?
The VFL should be a vibrant nursery, not a clogged graveyard for spuds who are out of favor.
Disagree lamb and Carter. Maybe it's got nothing to do with Coaches, maybe it's about him.
I reckon he is cruising and it's time he fired up and had a red hot crack. It's time he stopped thinking 2-3 cameo Cyril Rioli imitations is enough. It's time he worked his butt off , got to contests and chased consistently when he hasn't got the ball.
Talent alone won't make you an AFL player these days and right now that's all Beanie has, talent. My concern is that the penny hasn't dropped for him and by now it should have.
I reckon he is cruising and it's time he fired up and had a red hot crack. It's time he stopped thinking 2-3 cameo Cyril Rioli imitations is enough. It's time he worked his butt off , got to contests and chased consistently when he hasn't got the ball.
Talent alone won't make you an AFL player these days and right now that's all Beanie has, talent. My concern is that the penny hasn't dropped for him and by now it should have.
Carter said:
Seems RFC has plenty of work to do if its VFL is to be that "vibrant nursery", Carts.
I think most us got a bit excited about having a stand-alone VFL team, thinking it might help fast-track the younger players as well as the improve the progress of the AFL team. Doesn't seem to be the way it is currently panning out. In fact, if many of the VFL posters and other comments are anything to go by, it could be argued that the VFL Tigers are hindering the Club rather than lifting the standards and progressing players' developments.
Western Bulldogs are far worse off financially than us, and won the VFL Premiership in their first year of stand alone last year Mids.
The fast tracking in the development of the kids at that club can be seen as a result.
Can you explain why we are so far behind them with our reserves?
The fast tracking in the development of the kids at that club can be seen as a result.
Can you explain why we are so far behind them with our reserves?
Leysy Days said:
I don't know. Luck?
Maybe their relationship with their previous feeder club was better than ours? I sincerely doubt Leysy believes the development of the kids in the Bullies 'ones' has anything to do with them getting a stand alone ressies.
Yep, luck. That's it. :hihi
Cmon Mids, you are allowed to criticise the club (or point out where it needs to improve if it makes you feel better worded like that).
Fact is, apart from playing on a better surface we are no better off than when we were with Coburg.
Cmon Mids, you are allowed to criticise the club (or point out where it needs to improve if it makes you feel better worded like that).
Fact is, apart from playing on a better surface we are no better off than when we were with Coburg.
Leysy Days said:
By no means do I think the club has necessarily got it right. All I'm saying is that the Bulldogs ability to feed through young players isn't down to them having a seconds team for one year. Clearly we were at odds with Coburg over a lot of things, including who should play, and where. It appears the Dogs may have been a bit better than us at that.
Perhaps the general recruiting philosophies of the two clubs have had a lot to do with it as well.
Leysy Days said:
Not sure that is fact. Sounds like an opinion to me. I think people quickly forget how bad the Coburg arrangement was. Gotta give the new entity time to build. I personally much prefer our own club as we at least control our own destiny.
Bullarto Tiger said:
Maybe Bully, maybe however I was extremely disappointed by him on Saturday.
There's a lot of criticism of the coaching, team play etc. but even the lackadaisical Tyrone looked far more natural footballer than McBean on Saturday so I'm not sure you can purely blame the coaches, gameplan etc. The key for mine is that TV worked hard to push to the right spots to receive the ball from the midfield. A natural forward's instinct. McBean on the other hand definitely looked to be 'cruising' as others have pointed out a kick off the play all day. He had the ball kicked once to him on the lead when he actually got into the right position but it was nowhere near enough.
The absolute key for mine is that I don't think his speed & mobility is there now. Whether that's the ankle injury or not I'm not sure because I didn't see him at the peak of his powers when the raves were coming. However the calls of baby giraffe are more accurate than the gazelle like qualities he'll need as a tall who plays small. On my relatively small scope admittedly, I just dont know where he'd fit at AFL level & I'm sure the coaches are wondering the same thing. Nothing I have seen in the NAB games and now at Coburg has convinced me hes anywhere near ready yet. How long we persevere i'm not sure but he'd want to improve on outings like Saturday.
Obviously he has a bit of talent but there's also a case of the Emperor's New Clothes taking place here.
