Let the whining and saltiness begin

[22nd Man]

I don't see it as that big a deal really. Apart from some small adjustments in setting up zones, it is hardly mentioned by teams preapring to play there. I'd bet if you asked every coach 100% would say they would rather adjust to a smaller ground than a bigger one.

Having said that it is also true that if your home ground gives you a significant advantage because of it's difference in size, it must also give you a significant disadvantage every other week.

Not necessarily....if your Ground is say the odd one out you play 11 there and 11 on bigger grounds. Chance to adapt to both.
If your ground is one of the bigger you play 21 on bigger 1 on tiny, far less chance to adapt.

 

[royce67]

I’m waiting for Malcolm Blight to come out and say “wouldn’t it be great if there was a tree in the middle of the ground? How amazing would that be?”

Well, there was the famous St Lawrence lime tree at he Kent County ground which was inside the boundary and had special rules made for it! I

There was also a rather nasty hawthorn bush at a mate's place that claimed quitr a few grand final half time footies (and drunken participants) over the years. I wouldn't mind seeing that at a few games.

 

[tigerdell]

Soccer grounds are not the same size, they vary by ground, its just that they are provided minimum and maximum guidelines for the ground size.

The AFL does not do that and for me that's a massive fail. They should have a minimum / maximum ground size both in terms of length and width.

If the AFL announced the guidelines today, without doubt, the minimum/maximum sizes would fit all AFL grounds.
Write the requirements to fit what they already have

 

[Midsy]

90% of soccer pitches

Barely any 'soccer' pitches are the same size. They have to be within certain ranges but probably 0% are the exact same size. Teams even adapt their styles to the size of their home pitch.

 

[Baloo]

Barely any 'soccer' pitches are the same size. They have to be within certain ranges but probably 0% are the exact same size. Teams even adapt their styles to the size of their home pitch.

Yeah, always knew there were min & max sizes. Just looked it up and I'm surprised and just how different a pitch can be:

The length of a pitch must be between 100 yards (90m) and 130 yards (120m) and the width not less than 50 yards (45m) and not more than 100 yards (90m).

By rights, you could have a ground that's a 90m x 90m square

 

[TigerFlag2017]

I like the idea.

Everyone gets used to playing there, cats lose their unfair advantage, and they don't play finals for the next 10 years

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

A satellite view of this venue. Ludicrous.

 

[TigerPort]

Geelong should be careful of what they ask. Get the Geelong ground used for an extended time by opposition teams and they will learn to operate within the narrow wings. Geelong's advantage will be lessened.

 

[DavidSSS]

Surely they could have moved the ground a little away from the road and made it more symetrical? One wing quite different from the other is just wrong. That wing near the road is pretty much straight, we're they trying to make an AFLX ground?

DS

 

[Streak]

I would suggest that Geelong will be a hub, and it is all to do with money.

Geelong have one of the best stadium deals going, so the AFL will rationalise that it is a cheap venue to play games at.

Which is fair enough. They might have secured all that money from the banks, but it will cost long term. The more than can do to minimise their expenditure, the better off everyone is.

 

[zippadeee]

I think isolation is starting to take its toll on you Zippa.

Flken oath.
The only legit season that we could go back to back and this shiit happens.
Why didnt this happen in 2010 or 1990??

 

[Jonesracing82]

I've always thought every team should host any final it has the high seeding for, regardless of ground size or crowds and if that isn't the case then it should be at a neutral venue.

As much as I love the MCG I think it should apply to Grand Finals as well.

That's all well & good but you can't lock crowds out of big games incl Finals which is the whole point of it.
MCG holds 100k yet only 17k Members each can get a ticket to the Grand Final, which is 17% of capacity, use that same ratio for a Grand Final at the shithole down the highway & you can see why there is no big games there. FWIW it's 6200 & thats it!
I am aware of someone associated with out Club even went out of thier way & suggested to them why not allocate more tix for opposition fans & that may help u get more games held there & they laughed at the idea so they can shove it!

 

[Jonesracing82]

I don't see it as that big a deal really. Apart from some small adjustments in setting up zones, it is hardly mentioned by teams preapring to play there. I'd bet if you asked every coach 100% would say they would rather adjust to a smaller ground than a bigger one.

Having said that it is also true that if your home ground gives you a significant advantage because of it's difference in size, it must also give you a significant disadvantage every other week.

This explains why the Cats *smile* themselves in Finals every year. They need more MCG games they want less so they are thier own worst enemy, they are becoming like a Marvel team - only 2 of them have ever won a Premiership in 20 years.....

 

[Jonesracing82]

Not necessarily....if your Ground is say the odd one out you play 11 there and 11 on bigger grounds. Chance to adapt to both.
If your ground is one of the bigger you play 21 on bigger 1 on tiny, far less chance to adapt.

Not to mention they train on it full time, no other Vic club has this advantage.

 

[Jonesracing82]

I would suggest that Geelong will be a hub, and it is all to do with money.

Geelong have one of the best stadium deals going, so the AFL will rationalise that it is a cheap venue to play games at.

Which is fair enough. They might have secured all that money from the banks, but it will cost long term. The more than can do to minimise their expenditure, the better off everyone is.

They have a ripper deal, the tax payer forks out to renovate it then when it's complete to a smaller capacity then they told us (hence they got us there in 17 on the promise of a 45k capacity) then when it's complete they lock out those paid for it in favour of thier own members.

 

[Jonesracing82]

Flken oath.
The only legit season that we could go back to back and this shiit happens.
Why didnt this happen in 2010 or 1990??

to be fair if this happened in 1990 we'd have gone under.

 

[Bernie]

The wings there are ridiculously narrow. It's not fit for suburban football, let alone a GF regardless of whether the Cats make it, which they won't.

See my photo from 2017 and ask if your grandma could kick from the square to the boundary, which has been painted by a 3-year-old with ADHD and dyspraxia.

Why the reference to a 3yo with an affliction?

 

[Baloo]

Why the reference to a 3yo with an affliction?

As the parent of a boy that has ADHD quite bad, I found it funny. Maybe because I could easily relate and didn't need to see the boundary to know what it looked like.

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

Two sons with ADHD among other afflictions here, but why the sensitivity when referring to the ability of a professional with commercial equipment to draw a neat oval? Poor attention to detail, clumsiness and infantile execution perfectly describes Kardinia Park's design and implementation, which is more suited to a childcare facility than an elite sporting venue.

 

[Legends of 2017]

I would find it hilarious if the AFL decided to go with, say, 3 hubs. 2 interstate and 1 in Geelong. But Geelong get shunted to one of the interstate hubs