Dunstan is gone from the Saints BTW, told them he was going elsewhere as a FA and got dropped for this week
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Jack Ross
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I thought he played a good game and if you had no preconceived opinion you’d be thinking he showed enormous promise for a young footballer. But, yes, it was a dead rubber, somewhere between VFL and AFL intensity for most of the game. The thing I was taken by though was that he stuck a number of really strong tackles. Richmond could do with a bit more of that.
RCD attended 13 centre bounces and cleared 4 of them.
Aarts attended centre bounces when Hawthorn thought they'd won the match. they stopped running.
Aarts attended centre bounces when Hawthorn thought they'd won the match. they stopped running.
I really hope your right CT,
But if Ross has a better career than Dow,
I'll stop pretending I understand footy.
Not many. Imagine if he played a whole game in the middle!!
A touch of this is mod positioning.
Ross mostly sat as the sweeper behind the rucks at the bounce, to my eye. He got hands on it a few times and gave off so I guess those wouldn't count as clearances.
Aarts came on with, what?, 5 minutes left and Hawks with the win. Was positioned as the attacking mid at the centre bounce so higher chance to get a clearance, especially with the hawks switched off.
Ross played mid all game including 22 centre bounces.
Lets face it if we had Aarts do that in a game then we would be smashed on transition.
Overall thought Ross was easily the most impressive of our young smalls.
RCD also had his moments.
Ross worked hard back in defence and often was the link-up player. Well done.
He did let the ball go through him a number of times but generally ok with his touch.
His touch and willingness to take the game on should improve as he cements his spot. Looking forward to 22
RCD also had his moments.
Ross worked hard back in defence and often was the link-up player. Well done.
He did let the ball go through him a number of times but generally ok with his touch.
His touch and willingness to take the game on should improve as he cements his spot. Looking forward to 22
Doing a David King and having a look at the stats, forgetting Ross had 24 touches , the encouraging thing for me was that nearly half were contested and he was close to our best pressure acts , not sure the clearance numbers as that would give a better indication of his midfield ability, let’s not forget Mitchell and Omera nearly raised the bat they had that many touches ….good step for JR all the same
Aart played for 10 minutes when everyone else was buggerd - Ross played a full midfield game
Sort of my point. Ross seems to be universally BOG, I watched most of the game good that he played in the only role he is suited to (I agree he is a mid or nothing). But I also saw the same average to poor disposal by foot. He had the most inside 50's in the match for both sides. Yet he had one score involvement. So only once of the 6 times he put the ball i50 did we score. Now raw stats don't tell the whole story, the forwards may have dropped 3 chest marks in those (they didn't) but I never think of Ross as being a good user by foot. (much better by hand). Ross had 1 score involvement for the game playing mid and getting it 24 times. Perhaps he was unlucky. Understand it's a very small sample size to pot his disposal on, but I think his kicking average. And he's not alone in having issues connecting with our forwards. At least he found the ball.
He is young, hopefully he cements his spot through consistent performance. We need to improve our inside game.
Couple of experienced n highly talented players in Mitchell n the Jaegerbomb, backed up by also having an experienced n talented ruck duo to work off.
Pretty sure their was a commentator call early in the game that our starting midfield at the centre bounce had all of about 40 games experience between them. Cujo, Rossy, R2D2, Dow, Martyn.
Was expecting anything around a ten goal or more flogging yesterday n more than happy we fought the game out to the end n pinched a draw when all was pointing at an honorable 5 or 6 goal loss.
Reckon Dimma simply threw the mid field kids in at the deep end yesterday to see who would swim or blow bubbles. Most of em swum pretty good.
Dow has more elite attributes than Ross. But he's not as much of a footballer. Ross is clearly a better option if we want to push for another flag next year. I reckon he'll have the better career too, but who knows.
I hope they compliment each other for the next ten years.
Well said Burg, I enjoyed that.
I also appreciate the surprisingly passionate defence of Ross from what seems the majority of PREnders.
I hope the lad makes a solid career in the AFL but I don’t see it happening. He’s just not good enough.
I think you and others are missing the point. Complaining he is not elite etc. of course he isn’t, we haven’t had a top ten pick for a gazilion seasons. But he deserves a bit more respect and time to prove himself after injury and being played out of position. If we are going to complain about him not being Trent Cotchin we may as well spit the dummy about winning 3 premierships in 4 years. Can’t have our cake and eat it too. But feel free to eat your hat.
Yep I understand the line of argument, but we wanna win flags, yeah?
Cotchin
Prestia
Martin
Bolton
Edwards
Lambert
Grigg
Graham
I've probably missed a couple but you get the point. This was our dynasty guts roster.
One bad year. Why are we suddenly so accepting of mediocrity? Back to the draft for a couple of mids and perhaps a quality mid via free agency. I fully expect to contend in 2022 and if that's the objective Jack Ross can't be getting senior games, simple as that.
