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Indigenous Voice Yes or No?
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I have a very dear indigenous friend whose parents were part of the stolen generation. So the after effects of that inhumane policy are still out there and it's still very raw.
No it's not.
I have posted about some of the serious issues that are happening NOW,and with the exceptions of Brodders,Sintiger,and a couple of other's ,most of the replies are snipes ,they add nothing to the discussions .So to me they are just closed minded.,,BUT WHATEVER.
Im not going to be made to feel guilty about the stolen generation ,and nor should anyone else who had nothing to do with it .,
Yes it's a Very dark part of our history ,and should never be forgotten.
I would say most countries in the world have dark histories ,some a lot more than other's .
Australia as a country has come along way since our dark past,but still has along way to go.
We don't live in the past of the world wars we where in,we have a large amount Germans/Italians and we even have a strategic alliance with Japan ,we have moved on,but we remember .
Anyway heres a link for anyone interested ,it is long reading and a few year's old,because their been very little if any research into these issues ,in recent times.
I certainly haven't read it all.
Child abuse and neglect in Indigenous Australian communities
Developed with SNAICC to provide an overview of the issues around the child abuse and neglect of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children.
Sure it is, just because someone disagrees with you that a failed policy should be retried doesn't mean they're OK with children being abused. Thats a strawman fallacy right there.
And its rather ironic to accuse others of wanting children to be abused then support a policy that in the past led to children being abused.
How am l supporting a failed policy ,by removing child abuse victims from that environment .*smile* me
you said you want whole communities resettled around the state mate.
My concern is that Governments at all levels seem incapable of fixing significant social problems that have a fairy obvious and simple solution.
For example increasing disparity in education standards-give more money to the schools that need it and stop giving so much to the ones that have enough already as it makes no difference. Homelessness-build a lot more public housing. I won't go on.
As many have said the issues to do with Indigenous disadvantage are incredibly complex, so honestly I just can't see the Govenment making much difference at all. Increasing empowerment appears to be the only hope.
Well I quit. Had enough of these Yea voters who have not been north of Bell Street Coburg or west pass the olde Footiscray Oval. If ya gave them an all expenses paid holiday to Halls Creek or Alice Springs for a week they would be back in three days & do a Shultz " I saw nothing". Ps had to get in touch with Foxtel today. First message. Are you of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Island descent ? If so we have a designated jumping the line hotline for you > Wot !! Hope not our transport systems do not follow this trend as when you want to board a train bus tram ferry taxi plane stage coach you might hear "Are You of Aboriginal & Torres Strait Island descent if so board & depart first.
Tigaman, you have no idea of the background of people posting so please don’t make assumptions on their knowledge base.
In all your posting I fail to see any specific argument about the Voice which is what this thread is about.
Perhaps you can articulate what your position is and why
He doesn't support the Voice because he had to wait too long on the Foxtel support line
In fairness to BT he is saying that kids who are abused should be removed, not the blanket policy that was the Stolen Generation.
The Stolen Generation targeted half-caste and neglected indigenous kids. Though there were attempts by one of the governments of the time to declare that all indigenous kids should be considered "neglected" by default.
In 1909, the Protector of Aborigines in South Australia, William Garnet South, reportedly "lobbied for the power to remove Aboriginal children without a court hearing because the courts sometimes refused to accept that the children were neglected or destitute". South argued that "all children of mixed descent should be treated as neglected". His lobbying reportedly played a part in the enactment of the Aborigines Act 1911. This designated his position as the legal guardian of every Aboriginal child in South Australia, not only the so-called "half-castes".
Nope, he advocated removing whole remote communities and resettling them in other cities and towns - arguably even more extreme than the Stolen Generation. He wants to destroy any connection these people have to their traditional lands.
We are going around in circles here.,and l think you are being a bit hysterical .
Hows living in these camp communities going for them ,how it going for the children living there.
A lot of these children are going to have mental health problems for the rest of their lives.
A fairly large amount of indigenous who have died in custody ,have had some level of abuse .
Have a look at this ,or maybe this doesn't fit into your agenda .
Child protection Australia 2019–20, Summary - Australian Institute of Health and Welfare
During 2019-20, 174,700 (31 per 1,000) Australian children received child protection services (investigation, care and protection order and/or were in out-of-home care). Aboriginal and Torres...
www.aihw.gov.au
Closing Aboriginal communities is IMO a bad idea, and moving Aboriginal people to regional centres has been tried before and was disastrous, but that is different to the stolen generation.
