How dumb is the Richmond Football Club?

[Scoop]

What do you disagree with?

Calling it bad luck about the depth in the draft.

Typical Richmond luck getting 5 picks in the top 20 when there were only 7 or 8 standouts in a weak draft.

With 3 picks between 10-20 we got one footballer and he is a shocking kick (Polo). That is a disgrace, luck has nothing to do with it. Lot of good players went between 10 and 56 (Chris Knights). We should have walked with more. Luck has nothing to do with it.

 

[Tigerbob]

With 3 picks between 10-20 we got one footballer and he is a shocking kick (Polo). That is a disgrace, luck has nothing to do with it. Lot of good players went between 10 and 56 (Chris Knights). We should have walked with more. Luck has nothing to do with it.

Yep we simply need to recruit better.

This may be a "weak" draft, I hate that saying, but there will good footballers there if we want it and recruit shrewdly enough, but that has been our problem.

Watching Brisbane tonight was amazing really. The one thing I noticed was how many running players they have, but all of them are not just good kicks of the ball, but great, penetrating kicks of the ball. That's the key in the modern game. Kicking well and with the ability to penetrate a line accurately.

I am sure we can take their philosophy and build a list pretty quickly.

 

[Tigers2011]

What about Callum Ward for the Bulldogs? He was taken for the McMahon pick!! What a joke!!

Only lesson is that it must never happen again.

 

[tigerjoe]

Yep we simply need to recruit better.

This may be a "weak" draft, I hate that saying, but there will good footballers there if we want it and recruit shrewdly enough, but that has been our problem.

Watching Brisbane tonight was amazing really. The one thing I noticed was how many running players they have, but all of them are not just good kicks of the ball, but great, penetrating kicks of the ball. That's the key in the modern game. Kicking well and with the ability to penetrate a line accurately.

I am sure we can take their philosophy and build a list pretty quickly.

So like me Bob you couldn't watch the garbage our so-called players dished up?

Spud, Beck, Miller, Wallace and Casey will go down in history as the most inept bunch of so-called professionals the Richmond Football club has ever had.

 

[Disco08]

Calling it bad luck about the depth in the draft.

With 3 picks between 10-20 we got one footballer and he is a shocking kick (Polo). That is a disgrace, luck has nothing to do with it. Lot of good players went between 10 and 56 (Chris Knights). We should have walked with more. Luck has nothing to do with it.

It's bad luck in the sense that they could have had the same picks in a strong draft and fluked a couple more good players. No one's making excuses for their poor recruiting. I do reckon that not taking Meyer's injuries into account is wrong too. It's hard to say that was a wasted pick when he never really got going because of the severity of his problems. With a good run I think there was every chance he could have been a very good player.

I'd be interested to see which of the 46 players taken in that range you think are good.

 

[the claw]

It's bad luck in the sense that they could have had the same picks in a strong draft and fluked a couple more good players. No one's making excuses for their poor recruiting. I do reckon that not taking Meyer's injuries into account is wrong too. It's hard to say that was a wasted pick when he never really got going because of the severity of his problems. With a good run I think there was every chance he could have been a very good player.

I'd be interested to see which of the 46 players taken in that range you think are good.

agree on one point you cant draft for injury.
you can take a punt on an injured player like judd or muston or dowler but cant forsee any future injuries that may occur.

my gripe with that draft was we targeted 4 smalls out of the first 5 picks there was no balance or logic.even with late picks.

ironic wasnt it, wallace took mark graham because of a percieved lack of kpds to help what young kpds we had on the list which was none, only a rookie but could not target any young kpds with nd picks. mindboggling. or what about the lack of ruckmen or young ruckmen not a one. make no mistake pattison a nothing pick and a total waste was taken as a kpf. quality and type in that draft was diabolical.

because of low numbers taken since 04 we have age holes as well as positional holes in the list in 21yo and unders. we are repeating the structural mistakes of yrs gone by.

at least there was some recognition of the need for kpfs with pattison mguane and limback all being taken again ironic we didnt get one decent forward or footballer for that matter out of that lot.

 

[Scoop]

I'd be interested to see which of the 46 players taken in that range you think are good.

Bate, Monfries, Wood, Van Berlo, Rosa, Moore, Prismall, LecRas, Maric, Sherman, Slattery, Chris Knights.

Don't think that is too big and ask to come out with one or two more. Luck has nothing to do with it.

 

[Disco08]

12 from 46 with a couple questionable as to whether they're any better than McGuane or Polo. That's a little under 26%.

As I already said, the only bit I was suggesting was luck was that we ended up with a good swag of picks in a bad year. If we'd had the same picks in a strong draft Miller might have fluked a couple of better players. I know (it's blatantly obvious) drafting has very little to do with luck. I wasn't making excuses for the poor recruiting and TBH I'm not sure how you read it that way to begin with.

 

[Scoop]

Isn't that percentage based on 1 pick, we infact had 4?

What ever way you paint it, the club stuffed it. I doubt we will ever get such a great chance to rebuild in one hit with that many picks inside 20.

 

[Disco08]

Isn't that percentage based on 1 pick, we infact had 4?

What's the difference? Each time you picks it's a 26% chance. How would you figure it - 4 x 26% = 102%?

What ever way you paint it, the club stuffed it. I doubt we will ever get such a great chance to rebuild in one hit with that many picks inside 20.

They got 2 very good players (1 looks like he could be elite), 1 average player, 1 who looks destined for the scrapheap and 1 who can't be assessed because of injury from those 5 picks. That's not that bad a result.

I'm not trying to "paint it" any more than you are either.