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How dumb is the Richmond Football Club?

Mac said:
This post has saved me starting a new thread, which I would have called Misguided Loyalty, which is somehting I have been accused of. My only response was along the lines of "Oh yeah? Is not. Says you." But I didn't have any real come back.

In hindsight it has been misguided loyalty. If the RFC was a stock, I would have dumped it years ago. If it was the local garage, I would have switched to someone who could actually fix my car. Not many other entities enjoy such a return of loyalty like a football club and no more so than the RFC. It is of course different to these analagies, because of the emotional and tribal attachment with a team - and it's usually virtually impossible to change for a true supporter once they've aligned themselves. I always held the utter belief and hope that one day they would repay me, not understanding the nature of how a good team works (when I was a kid I didn't understand why the players in my team wouldn't do the things the players in other teams were doing - now I understand it's because they couldn't). The RFC of course hasn't repaid me and doesn't look like doing so for some time still. And yet I remain loyal. Why? It's not like the rewards are abundant. Are they loyal to me? If I let my membership lapse for a year, would they embrace me back as a gold member? I'd have to make my case to them pretty good - they might do it. What if it lapsed for 3 to 5 years? No way known would they reinstate my gold status. What if they invested in me for 27 years and I let them down for all but 2 of those years? How loyal would they feel toward me?

I won't be changing teams, but I currently don't have that unshakable hope because I'm older and can understand they have to build/rebuild properly and if they don't they will continue to perform poorly - I'll just be more philosophical about it.

And let's face it. They have been and continue to be dumb. It was one thing to put Richo back on against the roos as a game day tactic, but it is inconceivable to me how they didn't rest him against the swans. I was astounded he was was even considered let alone named and played.

Mate, you have hit the nail on the head. I'm a platinum member, after our last premiership success ( the 3rd in 8 years that I could really celebrate) I thought I had invested in the best stock. 30 years later, we live in hope and dismay.
 
been a member 29 years and saying it as it is what the club deserves, what have they given back? turning up every week, buying memberships, sponsoring barwon tigers( country group who raise money for richmond), driving up every week from colac and geelong, in return they screwed our season in round 1 2nd quater, the new oxford dictionary has richmond under screwed up, yes i will go to games still, but please tell it as it is, the result is richo misses most this season, its well known that favouring one part of your body can cource injury to other parts, as has happened.
 
tigerjoe said:
I ask you, could a club be any dumber than Richmond.

Poor draft picks,

crap game plan,

5 year contracts,

letting injured players continue to play,

poor administration,

etc, etc...................

And now Richo is out for 10 weeks because the medico's and coach let him play on Sunday.

Richmond you are a joke!

I suppose Fitzroy, we all know what happened to them, they became extinct.

Seriously though, the RFC Board have a major reconstruction in front of them, the football department, the coaches, the players, the facilities and the list goes on.

Question is are the RFC Board prepared to take the really hard decisions, or will they buck pass, back stab etc instead of facing up to the tasks at hand and make the right decisions no matter how unpopular with players, staff, members, supporters and the media.

The rebuilding process is going to take years, at least 6 years in my book before we can even think of being a serious challenge in finals football, probably closer to
10 before we can consider a flag realistic.

Will the members handle the idea of watching players go thru the motions, developing their bodies, making errors and getting flogged by superior teams, comfortable in the notion that in a couple of years, it will the other teams copping the hiding, or will the members want instant results otherwise its goodbye coach and Board?

This Club Review is just oh so important, its probably the most important item the club has instigated since SOS, which is truly saying something, but I happen to believe that the club is now in a desperate situation in terms of the playing list and its got to get the next few years drafting and development of the players spot on, otherwise I'm not so sure if Richmond will have a future. I just hope that the current Board is prepared to do whatever it takes to get Richmond back to the "eat em alive" (on the field) mentality, that was so dominant in the late 60's and 1970's.
 
Add Richo's hamstring injury handling

To

Cousins having tightness in his hamstring and being put back on the field in round 1 when the game was all over - then his hamstring tears

One

Starts to get a pattern of foolish medical errors.

Dumb is not the right word to describe this!

Coaches/Administration/Medical-Fitness Staff panicking to appear to be doing something when under extreme pressure is more like it.
 
RemoteTiger said:
Not much good though - if you only ever hear the song before the game and never after the game.........

It makes for a great ringtone
 
Too many people walking on eggshells at Punt Road. Almost like everyone is covering their a... so they're not held accountable if something screws up. You learn from making mistakes albeit not repeatedly.

Don't give a stuff who gets upset, ousted whatever/ whoever. I just want my club to start displaying the passion for success that its supporters have been showing by turning up week in week out for close to 30 years. Look at the member numbers for the worst performing club in the AFL, just imagine what could be achieved with just a small taste of continued success let alone a flag. One day ................ :sleeping

C'mon RFC no matter how difficult the task, the supporters will stick by the club as we've done till now, just stop the rot once and for all.

Eat em alive Tigers
 
RemoteTiger said:
Add Richo's hamstring injury handling

To

Cousins having tightness in his hamstring and being put back on the field in round 1 when the game was all over - then his hamstring tears

Except he didn't have tightness in his hamstring, it was unrelated.
 
IanG said:
Except he didn't have tightness in his hamstring, it was unrelated.

Thats not how it was reported on the broadcast - but more fool me relying on commentators as the basis of my argument - you're probably right......
 
This issue has to be covered off in any new club strategy.

It must be that caution is excercised in all cases where a player is suffering a minor injury which has the potential to become a major injury. I know this has the potential to be unworkable as most players carry a niggle of some sort, but I am more referring to situations like Richo and Cuzz. Neither should have come back on in the games when they first hurt themselves. The likelyhood is that we would have lost Cuzz for one week at worst and Richo for 1-2.

Greg Hickey has a very good reputation in the sports medicine industry but he hasn't exactly covered himself in glory this season.

And to the original question, every time the club has an option they more often than choose the wrong one..stupid or unlucky?
 
Ghost of 29 said:
And to the original question, every time the club has an option they more often than choose the wrong one..stupid or unlucky?

Or over-cautious?

Fortune favours the brave....................time to get brave Tigers....................
 
BloodOath said:
I take it your NOT a member Hypoxic??

Bloody Oath I am a member, and proud to be one too.

It hurts sometimes but it will make the successful era feel so much sweeter..........and it is coming.
 
frawleyudud said:
Don't be like that!!

How could they tell that Richo would have been injured??

The fact he hobbled off during the North game clutching his hammy??
The fact they sent him back on against North and he was limping??
The fact he limped from the first whistle against Sydney??
The fact they took him off against Sydney for almost a qtr??
The fact they brought him back on against Sydney when he clearly was struggling to walk let alone run??

Which one of those?? How could they know?? It was just plain unlucky!!!
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Spot on. I have been filthy at the club since that point in the North game. Our medicos and coaching staff are completely inept. Blind Freddy could see what was going to happen. They stuffed up with Cuz, now they have done the same to Richo. Joke of the highest order.
 
Aren't these things the kind of things that tends to happen to clubs that have a playing list that includes 6 30+yos? They are right on the ragged edge of physically being able to play at the highest level and their body tends to give way. They are the cream not the cake. Time to play the kids methinks!