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Higgins and Butler

josey said:
I met Dan Butler over summer, and had a quick chat.

Nice fella who was more than happy to talk about the Tigers.
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He came to the Castagna announcement which showed he was still welcome at the club.
It was actually Shai Bolton who took Butler’s spot in 2019 and he left for more opportunity. I can understand that but he was probably worth more than we got.
Higgins has been talked about a lot but it is also forgotten that he had lost his spot in 2020 despite playing games early on. Maybe he wasn’t fully recovered and maybe it was the hub as others have said. When a player wants to leave they generally leave, especially when it seemed that there had been some bad blood.
I have always suspected it was missing out on the 2020 premiership that was the reason he left but I can’t remember now why he wasn’t in the team ie form or injury ?
 
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RUNVS said:
Watching the Saints V GC game and watching Higgins tearing it up. I fear we made a huge mistake letting both Higgins and Butler go.
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Stop with the revisionist history.

Higgins walked. After the club supported him through a near career threatening injury, he *smile* walked. Like a selfish, dog *smile* that he is. The Saints will NEVER win a flag with him playing like he does. All about his snags.

As for Butler, only ever plays well when his career is on the line. Once he gets comfortable, he drops off.

Move on folks. It's problem's not that these guys left, it's the replacements aren't ready yet. We've got some great talent to take the reins if they want it enough.
 
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Sintiger said:
He came to the Castagna announcement which showed he was still welcome at the club.
It was actually Shai Bolton who took Butler’s spot in 2019 and he left for more opportunity. I can understand that but he was probably worth more than we got.
Higgins has been talked about a lot but it is also forgotten that he has lost his spot in 2020 despite playing games early on. Maybe he wasn’t fully recovered and maybe it was the hub as others have said. When a player wants to leave they generally leave, especially when it seemed that there had been some bad blood.
I have always suspected it was missing out on the 2020 premiership that was the reason he left but I can’t remember now why he wasn’t in the team ie form or injury ?
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Brain surgery.
 
The_General said:
Stop with the revisionist history.

Higgins walked. After the club supported him through a near career threatening injury, he *smile* walked. Like a selfish, dog *smile* that he is. The Saints will NEVER win a flag with him playing like he does. All about his snags.

As for Butler, only ever plays well when his career is on the line. Once he gets comfortable, he drops off.

Move on folks. It's problem's not that these guys left, it's the replacements aren't ready yet. We've got some great talent to take the reins if they want it enough.
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The fact we were compensated makes these two defections palatable, the same goes for CCJ & Chol. our trading capital wasn't greatly impacted, that is the only measure that is fair and reasonanable. The management of the small forward role is another issue, we seem to be on a sliding scale with the replacements, culminating in Mansell being trialed in there. Our small forward recruiting has been smart for the most part, Campbell was the percentage play at the deep end of the draft, Judson was the next best behind Rachele so that pick always had my support. The jury out on Brown & Banks, I think the wrong picks and a net loss on the personnel that have departed, still early days however, hopefully things start to turn in the latter part of the season.
 
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Merveille said:
Just realised - Stengle, Butler, Higgins, Rioli, Castagna all out of that forward line
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Yep. Two of them wanted out of the club n one retired, one got nudged n the others one's become a premium game opening small defender.
 
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Both done very well for Richmond Reserve players.
Especially Butler who was stinking it up at the time he left
 
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toothless said:
Signed on for another 4 years... Red, white and Jack: Livewire one of three key Saints to re-sign - https://www.afl.com.au/news/963181
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All the talk about how tough he did it and how he thanks the doctor but continues to ignore the support and patience that we showed him as he worked through it. That's the thing that bites me the most and I reckon the players think that way too.

Meanwhile, I'd give my right nut to have Butts backl
 
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I noticed at Cotch's 300th, that RFC supporters around me repeatedly booed Higgins but not one booed Butler. Didn't really understand why, but this thread probably explains why. Overall sentiment is that Butler is a good bloke and a RFC premiership player and Higgins isn't either of those two.
 
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houstontiger said:
I noticed at Cotch's 300th, that RFC supporters around me repeatedly booed Higgins but not one booed Butler. Didn't really understand why, but this thread probably explains why. Overall sentiment is that Butler is a good bloke and a RFC premiership player and Higgins isn't either of those two.
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Because we love Bulter and don't give a *smile* about Higgins.
Nothing Richmond about Higgins
 
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Butler actually wouldve made his way back into the side in 2020 because thats the year Aarts was brought in.

Effectively his form dipped and also had some injury niggles in 2019 did Dan and fell behind Shai and Baker Stackman., then there was also Tommy.

Captain chaos was still running strong and Daniel Rioli was still forward.

In hindsight Butler would've got plenty of opportunities had he stayed at the RFC we can see now but at the time it looked grim and he was offered opprtunities and a bigger stack of cash.

Many Tigers fans didn't begrudge him taking the better offer, and many also were not too stressed about him moving on at the time.
 
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Richmond’s game plan destroys small forwards.
Simply a role playing job that stifles creativity. They’re there simply to apply pressure and trap the ball in for the outlet kick.
Butler, Castagna, DRioli, and lesser extent Higgins all burnt out..
Look at Dan since he moved back as all the evidence you need. Or Butlers improvement when he left
That’s why they flourish elsewhere.
George should have asked for a transfer to see if he could have reignited his career but after 3 Premierships, probably felt he’d done enough
 
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Dont Argue said:
Richmond’s game plan destroys small forwards.
Simply a role playing job that stifles creativity. They’re there simply to apply pressure and trap the ball in for the outlet kick.
Butler, Castagna, DRioli, and lesser extent Higgins all burnt out..
Look at Dan since he moved back as all the evidence you need. Or Butlers improvement when he left
That’s why they flourish elsewhere.
George should have asked for a transfer to see if he could have reignited his career but after 3 Premierships, probably felt he’d done enough
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Yep. Dimma's Sweat Shop got us 3 flags though.
 
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Butler is (y)but Higgins is a
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