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Goodbye Mabior Chol
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I tend to agree, based on Hardwick's comments of picking the right combination. Solda is a good one to have against hickey.
Tony Braxton-Hicks
There are no stupid ideas, just stupid people
Balta or CuJo would be more competitive and give more around the ground than Choldo.
I thought his efforts after the ruck contests were good but he had no impact on the game.
Would prefer Soldo at the moment.
Would prefer Soldo at the moment.
Seems to be tiring. Might be playing injured. Lacked his usual spark to do the flashy moves today.
tough conditions, sure,
and in his defence, Lynchy and Jack were never comfortable.
but big Mabs couldn't have played a poor game at a worse time.
potentially a real sliding door moment.
Its a tough one the laconic style thing.
you cant say
'look more intense'
its their style.
just like you couldn't say to Mitch Robinson
'look more laconic'
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Bill James
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No he hasn't. The conditions don't suit him one bit it seems. That said he's got to do better than a handful of touches.
When he dropped that mark yesterday in the open I'd seen enough.
I'm a fan of our current structure (with the relief ruckman) but CCJ or Balta could do no worse than what Mabior has served up in the past fortnight.
Disappointing but I'm guessing the MC will be looking elsewhere this week. Chol has dropped his opportunity.
Still showing good signs, however I don’t think his contributing as much as Balta, Soldo or CCJ would be.
Was at the game from the southern stand. He was avoiding contact at all ruck contests. Was completely gassed many times too. If I’m groping for reasons maybe he is asthmatic - I used to struggle in the super cold And not be able to breathe. Whatever it is though - fitness, medical or mental he needs to sort it out to compete in all conditions.
Love his goal kicking and that is valuable but you have to work hard to make space or go and get it otherwise you are completely dependent on your teammates to do the work for you.
Love his goal kicking and that is valuable but you have to work hard to make space or go and get it otherwise you are completely dependent on your teammates to do the work for you.
Thought Nank struggled in the ruck against kruezer who isn't one of the bigger rucks. Chol struggled even more so. Would like to see Soldo do the heavy first ruck lifting while nank floats around the ground where needed. Especially against the eagles nank could plug holes in front of kennedy darling and McGovern
Just on this..seems plenty want Balta to come in as a replacement for Chol who's been playing forward & ruck.
However Balta is being developed as a key back at VFL level.
He showed mid year that he was getting lost & confused when being shuffled around all over the place.
Do we want to go back to that or give the lad some consistency?
If looking for a Chol replacement (who struggled in wet conditions), then I'd look at CCJ who's been playing very well in a similar role to Chol at VFL level.
However the braver move may be to stick with Chol despite his quiet output the past fortnight, & hope he does better on a dryer day.
However Balta is being developed as a key back at VFL level.
He showed mid year that he was getting lost & confused when being shuffled around all over the place.
Do we want to go back to that or give the lad some consistency?
If looking for a Chol replacement (who struggled in wet conditions), then I'd look at CCJ who's been playing very well in a similar role to Chol at VFL level.
However the braver move may be to stick with Chol despite his quiet output the past fortnight, & hope he does better on a dryer day.
Tony Braxton-Hicks
There are no stupid ideas, just stupid people
They've been shuffling him in the VFL the past 2 weeks, which suggests they're keeping him in mind for a role that isn't key back, and/or that they'd go with Garth for that defensive role anyway.
Is going to be an interesting dilemma for MC to address.
Not convinced that Chol is going to be sufficiently dependable or competitive in September.
Not convinced that Chol is going to be sufficiently dependable or competitive in September.
Don't think we can take players into finals who aren't physical when they need to be. Chol has shown improvement but has work to do in this area. Two quiet games against bottom four opposition doesn't bode well for the tougher games to come.
In 2017 we brought in Graham and Townsend late, both hard players. Broad too, who is hard enough.
Yeah Balta lost form and deserved to go back to the 2's, but he's naturally aggressive and will keep coming at the opposition. He is a like-for-like replacement for Chol and gives us that point of difference that Soldo and CCJ (at this stage) don't.
Its not ideal to use a 20yo to plug gaps, but i reckon he went back to see if he could be a cover if Grimes or Broad went down, rather than it being about him not being good enough as a fwd/ruck.
If he is our best option to play that back up role he should now finals are almost here.
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