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Global Warming
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lamb22 said:
Not really arguing anything, just throwing some opinions out there.
So in other words, you suggest you can ignore the content of what they write, based on who funds them. That is pretty much the definition of ad hominem.
Firstly, I didn't realise the Gulf of Mexico spill was a complex financial instrument, I thought it was oil. Secondly, the GFC was based in large part because of government interference in the housing loan sector, which resulted in banks lending money to people who couldn’t afford it.
A poorly regulated financial sector packaging these toxic loans brought about the GFC hand-in-glove with reckless government intervention. An ETS will involve a pseudo market of complex financial instruments with government involvement...
Aww, don’t be like that. My flippant comments are more due to my not having a great emotional investment in this topic.
You call TT partisan, you call me partisan. It seems partisan is defined as 'does not take lamb22's spin as the gospel truth'.
Hehe. I'm not, you are!
I guess to some it is more important who is raising problems, than what the problems are.
It will certainly be fascinating to watch. Climate change makes for entertaining politics.
Politcally, I think petrol is going to be the killer in this scheme. The Greens have already put it out there that they want petrol taxed, and they won't accept a cut in excise as compensation.
Just imagine - all those Western Sydney swing-seat voters, stuck in traffic every day watching their fuel gauges whilst listening to Alan telling them how much extra the carbon tax on fuel is costing them. It's enough to make Mark Arbib cry!
Just imagine - all those Western Sydney swing-seat voters, stuck in traffic every day watching their fuel gauges whilst listening to Alan telling them how much extra the carbon tax on fuel is costing them. It's enough to make Mark Arbib cry!
You can't do deals with the Greens. The ALP will learn this the hard way, hopefully the Australian public doesn't get harmed too much because of it.
lamb22 said:
Yep, individuals took no responsibility and borrowed more than they could afford, happily lent to them by poorly regulated institutions.
Bottom line is people need to take responsibility for themselves and work out themselves what they can afford, not rely on some guy on a commission telling them they can not only own their own home in 10-15 years but in 2 they can use the equity in their home to start on their investment portfolio.
Unfortunately it's always a case of blaming someone else when the sh*t hits the fan.
If serious we would tax our CO2 emission and instead of rebating it to our polluting community, use the proceeds to fund infrastructure projects to offset the inevitable sea rise, storm and severe weather impacts on the Aussie community.
Also stop the export of our coal and oil that other countries would consume and generate more global CO2 emissions.
Also stop the export of our coal and oil that other countries would consume and generate more global CO2 emissions.
Carbon Tax is BS and pissin in to the wind stuff.
Australia the only country to do it, when China, India, Japan, and the USA the biggest economies and polluters wont have a bar of it.
Comrade Jooliar and her socialist commie cretin monkeys will nail export industry and jobs in this country to the wall, well that is whatever export industry we have left.
Even if Australia becamer Carbon FREE tomorrow it would make no difference to the world anyway.
Everycountry has to do it, and i can bet London to a brick the developing economies arent gonna touch carbon off setting and taxing.
More contrived BS.
Australia the only country to do it, when China, India, Japan, and the USA the biggest economies and polluters wont have a bar of it.
Comrade Jooliar and her socialist commie cretin monkeys will nail export industry and jobs in this country to the wall, well that is whatever export industry we have left.
Even if Australia becamer Carbon FREE tomorrow it would make no difference to the world anyway.
Everycountry has to do it, and i can bet London to a brick the developing economies arent gonna touch carbon off setting and taxing.
More contrived BS.
craig said:
Re China
http://www.carbonpositive.net/viewarticle.aspx?articleID=2147
http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/news/1806070/reports-china-impose-carbon-tax-2012
India
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-01/india-to-raise-535-million-from-carbon-tax-on-coal.html
USA
http://www.rggi.org/home
Freezer said:
We're still coming out from an ice age. It's been happening for thousands of years.
