Dyer'ere said:Do we have consensus on the notion that there is Global Warming? Seems so. To be sure, do we concur?
Can we arrest this?
How?
now my dear ts whilist i dont subscribe to "lefty socialist scientific monthly " the lead levels i was talking about were from an article i read in the aged a cpl of years ago.as for the ozone layer re generating where did you come by that one ? i would be very interested in reading about that .. ps ts global warming is just the "new black" :rofl :rofltigersnake said:ssstone said:in the seventies it was lead petrol that was going to kill us,so lets invest in lead free cars and petrol and guess what?? lead levels continue to rise.in the eighties it was areosol cans that were going to kill us via the hole in the ozone,of course it was the cans making the holes not the numerous amount of space craft and sattielites we were sending thru it.in the nineties it was the rainforests,the lungs of the world we had to save .and now its global warming that is creating time
You can tack on all the little ROFLs you want ssssingle bed. I don't know where you get your info from. Airborne lead is very bad for you, it was phased out of petrol, lead levels in the atmostphere, and in fatty tissue of humans, has plummetted.
Also, the ozone layer was being rapidly depleted by chloro-flouro carbons that were in fridges and earosol cans, they were banned and phased out, the ozone layer is now rapidly re-generating at a rate faster than any scientist ever would have predicted.
Gues what? we can still drive around in cars, spray our deodorant to stop us stinking, and keep our stubbies cold. Incredible.
Two take home messages here:
1. If we take action to fix things once we realise their effects are bad, we can fix it. SSSingle bed has actually brought up two of the best examples.
2. Make sure you verify any information offered by SSSSingle bed.
Liverpool said:Disco08 said:Liverpool said:And unless I missed something in high-school....doesn't more and more carbon dioxide, produce less warming?
You're kidding right?
Nah, I've read before that more and more carbon dioxide can't absorb as much extra energy, which leads to less and less warmth.
I won't find a link tonight, but I'll see what I can find tomorrow.
feezer go outside and pour a glass of water on the ground and see what happens,then pour the same amount of water into a vessel that is already 3/4,s full of water already.funnily enuff the level risesFreezer said:ssstone said:disco so long as every major city in the world keeps pumping rain water caught on roads and roofs into the sea it will continue to rise it has nothing to do with "GLOBAL " WARMING"Disco08 said:ssstone said:yep in my unlearned opinion disco just as humans have evolved from 5 foot nothins to 6 foot plus as the door frame hieght in any old castle in europe will show you,the world will also evolve ,apparrently we had an ice age once so in my unlearned opinion this tells me that the earth also heated up ?? how did those frisky crocadiles survive ?if the people in this country who waste so much energy trying to put the fear into the unlearned on this topic put the same energy/monies into harvesting rainfall that we waste from catching it on roofs and roads and pissing it off in to port phillip bay then i would be impressed.but that would be doing something constructive wouldnt it :hihi
The world isn't really evolving at all. It follows patterns quite predictably.
You're right that the earth has seen ice ages (ice cores show it has one every 100000 years or so with warmer periods between them lasting 10000 years or so) and must also heat up. The problem is that it's not actually in a heating up phase right now, as the last ice age was about 110000 years ago and the world was at it's warmest about 6000 years ago, as Liverpool pointed out. The point is that all the glaciers that we see melting, lakes drying up, sea levels rising really shouldn't be happening at all.
But Sharon, that's cyclical. The rain water feeds into the sea, evaporates into the atmosphere and falls as rain again - no net loss or gain. The pollutants that it carries into the sea are the actual problem in your scenario.
thanks for the link duck .settling in for a read ;DDisco08 said:
tigersnake said:Its not that you don't want us to panic, none of us do, you don't wan't us to do anything. You see any recognition of the problem and action as panicing. Its not, its recognising a problem and acting.
tigersnake said:And again, we don't have to change our entire lives. Just be smarter how we do things.
ssstone said:thanks for the link duck .settling in for a read ;D
rosy23 said:Plant a tree livers. It's good for the soul. If you don't think it will help lessen global warming the birds and insects and koalas will still be grateful and future generations might just benefit from that 2 minute effort. If you don't have anywhere to plant a tree I'd be happy to plant one in your honour.
Liverpool said:Actually Rosy, in some parts of the world, planting trees WARMS their region.
So everybody running round planting trees won't solve the great global-warming problem, I'm afraid.
rosy23 said:Liverpool said:Actually Rosy, in some parts of the world, planting trees WARMS their region.
So everybody running round planting trees won't solve the great global-warming problem, I'm afraid.
What's heat got to do with it?
ssstone said:disco so long as every major city in the world keeps pumping rain water caught on roads and roofs into the sea it will continue to rise it has nothing to do with "GLOBAL " WARMING"
Freezer said:But Sharon, that's cyclical. The rain water feeds into the sea, evaporates into the atmosphere and falls as rain again - no net loss or gain. The pollutants that it carries into the sea are the actual problem in your scenario.
ssstone said:feezer go outside and pour a glass of water on the ground and see what happens,then pour the same amount of water into a vessel that is already 3/4,s full of water already.funnily enuff the level rises
by all means freeze .be as glib as you want.the theorey has nothing to do with NATURAL rainfall.it has to do with the FACT that we pump megalitres of rain water that 200 years ago would of soaked into the ground,evaporated or made its way into creeks/rivers straight out to sea.Freezer said:ssstone said:disco so long as every major city in the world keeps pumping rain water caught on roads and roofs into the sea it will continue to rise it has nothing to do with "GLOBAL " WARMING"
Freezer said:But Sharon, that's cyclical. The rain water feeds into the sea, evaporates into the atmosphere and falls as rain again - no net loss or gain. The pollutants that it carries into the sea are the actual problem in your scenario.
ssstone said:feezer go outside and pour a glass of water on the ground and see what happens,then pour the same amount of water into a vessel that is already 3/4,s full of water already.funnily enuff the level rises
I guess the rain falling over the oceans/seas is also filling it up...?! Tell those pesky kids to stop pissing in Port Phillip Bay as well - they're gonna flood the Thames.
Someone better pull the plug under the Pacific - we're all gonna drown.
:duh