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General Trade Discussion 2022
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Is there links available for later listening?Brilliant interview with Blair, we are in good hands
Interesting to hear Twomey say Dusty had a bit to do with hopper - catching up with him. Invested much?
Dustin Hoffman, Quentin Tarantino and Dennis Hopper, an all star cast.
Thought Hartley was very luke warm when asked about Soldo until the last couple of sentences.
Reckon we were pretty comfortable with losing him.
Reckon we were pretty comfortable with losing him.
So he’s not actually going to Sydney? I’ve lost confidence in AFL journos.
Manager: "We're on the move, club [X], we'd consider coming here, do you think you can accommodate player [Y]?"
Club: Yes / No.
The above, is literally what happens all the time. For example, Buddy Franklin to Sydney.
Also, the (a) and (b) in your second sentence are two very different things. Brisbane may have wanted Dunkley, but again, everyone knew about the father / sons and Gunston, making Dunkley a fourth banana.
I suspect RCD and/or Stack are on offer to be packaged up with 53, for us to move up the draft order as far as we can get. Suspect we'd be aiming for something around pick 40.
Whilst that's true - The player mgr (in Dunkley's case) should have been able to read the tea leaves (despite what Brisbane might have said) and known it was always going to be difficult to get to Brisbane and might not get done (compared to other clubs).
He might well have done that. Dunno. End of the day the player makes the choice after meeting clubs and advice from his mgr.
Doesn’t your first paragraph align with the fact this is a club decision on whether they want and can accomodate the player ?
Right now the impasse with Dunkley and Henry is club related, not agent and player. They have nothing to do with it right now.
The club, player and agent enquire with each other and the CLUB tells the manager and player if they can fit him in. Not the other way round ! Since when does an agent control trading, cap space etc at a club and then say to their player “We’re all set buddy !” ? It’s the CLUB. They manage their own capability ffs. How does an agent know everything and anything going on with a club’s list ? They don’t.
It’s pretty simple really. They’re the ones controlling whether he can land or not. They’re the ones managing their OWN list, not the manager …and then telling the manager and player if they can get it done.
Clearly Brisbane and Geelong have told Dunkley and Henry they think they can, and the agent and player have to rely on that. Ergo…problem right now lies with the club, not the agent or player who’ve been acting on good faith.
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My point is that Dunkley shouldn't have nominated Brisbane or had Brisbane as his first choice given that he was fourth in their list of priorities. And his manager should have been able to look at some clearly reported facts and communicate that to him. Like I said, he has done this two years in a row. Henry much the same. He very clearly, regardless of his family connection, is not a priority and has made himself look like a spoilt brat.
Did Hartley say anything about Aarts? If we ditch RCD and/or Stack and keep Aarts, we are wasting our time
This is what clubs do though. They look at their list, cap space, de listings, FS, trades etc and tell a player where there’s mutual interest if they think they can get him there.
The agent has to rely in good faith on what they’re being told coz they don’t have all of that info at their disposal.
Club issue. Not manager.
If you think that player managers just swallow blindly what footy departments say, I have a bridge to sell you.
Nah.
The player mgr doesn't have to rely on what the club says in good faith.
i.e. If Didoro said to Mgr A - We have the collateral (picks, cap) to get this done, would you take the club at its word that he will put your player first, won't try and sell other clubs short and get the deal done? He would rightly question what he's been told and take that into account when weighing that club up against another.
Sounds like Dom Ambrogio is also building a similar rep at the Lions. Combine that with very highly rated academy kids that need a lot of picks being the clubs priority. Not Dunkley.
Red flags everywhere getting Dunkley there despite what the club might have said. It was even spelled out on here why that it would be difficult to achieve. And that has come to fruition and should have been weighed up by Pickering and Dunkley before selecting Brisbane.
Do agree it reflects very poorly on the clubs at hand here to court a player, but not keep reasonable collateral to get the player in.
