Surely not much science to putting all your numbers behind the ball, managing just 18 possessions inside your F50 for the whole game and indirectly scoring two of your three goals from 50m penalties?
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Game Day - Tigers v Swans
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Sydney coach John Longmire hits back at Damien Hardwick’s criticism of his tactics (paywalled)
Fired-up Sydney coach John Longmire has hit back at Damien Hardwick, labelling comments from his Richmond rival about the Swans tactics as “completely unnecessary and unwarranted.”
Longmire received an apology from Hardwick over phone on Sunday night, but it did not stop the Swans boss from vehemently defending himself again publicly on Monday as Sydney also reeled from the devastating double blow of losing Isaac Heeney for the season and Josh Kennedy for up to eight weeks.
The Swans coach blasted Hardwick for contravening the unwritten coaching code of not dumping on other clubs – a trend Longmire feels has crept into the AFL this season.
Longmire said Hardwick’s assertion that the Swans had flooded behind the ball a cheap shot, but also factually incorrect.
“The comments after the game from Damien were completely unnecessary and unwarranted. They just weren’t correct,” said Longmire.
“We didn’t play an extra defender, Richmond bring a player up around the ball and have been doing it for a long time. We just held our six defenders in place.
“If Damien didn’t want to do that he could have brought his forward back in and just played 6-6-6 and the issue would have been done.
“I’m not sure it’s my role to walk up to Damien’s coach’s box, knock on the door and say ‘what would you like us to do?’ That’s how it happened.”
Longmire was filthy earlier in the year when Hawthorn’s former fitness coach questioned whether star forward Lance Franklin was overweight.
Now he has been left dismayed by Hardwick’s actions.
“I thought that coaches were really collegiate and I was hoping that would still be the case, but we’ve got to be careful, I reckon, as an industry that we don’t drop into this habit of potting other people and finger-pointing,” said Longmire, who said he was entitled to defend himself on Monday.
“It’s a bit of a challenging time for all of us and I just think we need to take a deep breath and help each other through this.
“Damien called me straight after the game, apologised for the comments, which is appreciated, but as I said to Damien, they’re out there.
“Now you’ve got to have a press conference and talk about it.
“From my angle, we did not go in to play an extra number behind the ball, and you can look at all the stoppages and the majority of the times, we might not have got every one right but the majority of the time, that’s what the plan was.
“Now in an off-ball sense, the best team in the last three years at getting support behind the ball has been Richmond, with their wingers and what they do has been outstanding, fantastic.
“I guess from my perspective I’ve been around the coaching industry for a long time and I try not to make comments on other teams. But we’ve just slipped into a bit of a habit of having strong opinions on other teams. It’s just unnecessary.
“He just said he was frustrated. I said, OK, if you’re frustrated, just bring your forward back from up around the ball, which you normally play, and play six forwards in front of the ball. Done.”
Fired-up Sydney coach John Longmire has hit back at Damien Hardwick, labelling comments from his Richmond rival about the Swans tactics as “completely unnecessary and unwarranted.”
Longmire received an apology from Hardwick over phone on Sunday night, but it did not stop the Swans boss from vehemently defending himself again publicly on Monday as Sydney also reeled from the devastating double blow of losing Isaac Heeney for the season and Josh Kennedy for up to eight weeks.
The Swans coach blasted Hardwick for contravening the unwritten coaching code of not dumping on other clubs – a trend Longmire feels has crept into the AFL this season.
Longmire said Hardwick’s assertion that the Swans had flooded behind the ball a cheap shot, but also factually incorrect.
“The comments after the game from Damien were completely unnecessary and unwarranted. They just weren’t correct,” said Longmire.
“We didn’t play an extra defender, Richmond bring a player up around the ball and have been doing it for a long time. We just held our six defenders in place.
“If Damien didn’t want to do that he could have brought his forward back in and just played 6-6-6 and the issue would have been done.
“I’m not sure it’s my role to walk up to Damien’s coach’s box, knock on the door and say ‘what would you like us to do?’ That’s how it happened.”
Longmire was filthy earlier in the year when Hawthorn’s former fitness coach questioned whether star forward Lance Franklin was overweight.
Now he has been left dismayed by Hardwick’s actions.
“I thought that coaches were really collegiate and I was hoping that would still be the case, but we’ve got to be careful, I reckon, as an industry that we don’t drop into this habit of potting other people and finger-pointing,” said Longmire, who said he was entitled to defend himself on Monday.
“It’s a bit of a challenging time for all of us and I just think we need to take a deep breath and help each other through this.
“Damien called me straight after the game, apologised for the comments, which is appreciated, but as I said to Damien, they’re out there.
“Now you’ve got to have a press conference and talk about it.
“From my angle, we did not go in to play an extra number behind the ball, and you can look at all the stoppages and the majority of the times, we might not have got every one right but the majority of the time, that’s what the plan was.
“Now in an off-ball sense, the best team in the last three years at getting support behind the ball has been Richmond, with their wingers and what they do has been outstanding, fantastic.
“I guess from my perspective I’ve been around the coaching industry for a long time and I try not to make comments on other teams. But we’ve just slipped into a bit of a habit of having strong opinions on other teams. It’s just unnecessary.
“He just said he was frustrated. I said, OK, if you’re frustrated, just bring your forward back from up around the ball, which you normally play, and play six forwards in front of the ball. Done.”
oh ohh....I’ve been called out. Hold on....”I’m offended! Apologise! How dare you speak your mind”.....
I can confirm that Longmire is talking *smile*. Like others have said it wasn't a +1 due to us playing an extra number at the ball. When the ball was in our half, they had 15 players in the defensive third.
Tony Braxton-Hicks
There are no stupid ideas, just stupid people
Because Graham's so slow he still wouldn't have made it to the goal square.
I was at the ground. We needed a Townsend type character to keep the loose man accountable. Then push some of the other forwards up the ground, see if the defenders follow them and leave Lynch or Riewoldt deep.
It was a frustrating game, another option could've been to kick it in long to the pockets to a marking contest and try to lock the ball in deep in our fwd line. Instead we were targeting leads approx 40m out and not executing.
It was a frustrating game, another option could've been to kick it in long to the pockets to a marking contest and try to lock the ball in deep in our fwd line. Instead we were targeting leads approx 40m out and not executing.
i don't know if you could've done much. it was suffocating. convert a few of those points and we win by 5 goals.
maybe kick George and Rioli up the butt, they're both mildly dysfunctional right now.
It's not the done thing, the coaches watch each other's backs. Hardwick was frustrated and apologised.
Now Longmire wants to play the victim and milk it. Must be something in the water up there.
Longdrop is full of *smile*. Even if they didn't have a "plus 1" because the Tiges pushed a forward out to the play the ball area, they still had multiple players inside their defensive 50 who were not on a Tigers player.
They had a "plus 5"
Indeed it does Wayne.
And I notice Longfart hasn't called out The Parrot and The Flycatcher for saying exactly the same thing and backing what Dimma said.
*smile* him and his game plan.
Heeney's out for the year with his ankle the unlucky bastard. At least he doesn't have ti play that *smile* gameplan. We should get into his ear and get him to come to the Tiges.
They had a "plus 5"
Indeed it does Wayne.
And I notice Longfart hasn't called out The Parrot and The Flycatcher for saying exactly the same thing and backing what Dimma said.
*smile* him and his game plan.
Heeney's out for the year with his ankle the unlucky bastard. At least he doesn't have ti play that *smile* gameplan. We should get into his ear and get him to come to the Tiges.
You only need to look at their Heat Map posted elsewhere on PRE - thought it was on this thread but didn't catch in the previous 3 pages I just checked. But would be on AFL match centre.
Think Longmire is talking through his horse arse. Dimma is too much the nice guy.
Media is one thing, what coaches say is another. That's what he was complaining about.
The Longmire doth protest too much, methinks...
(With apologies to Shakey.)
