GAME DAY SEMI THREAD - Tiger vs Saints

[Dyer'ere]

I don't get that. If they think a finger nail or boot lace may have gotten 6 inches close to the ball, they look at it for 5 minutes.
Why can't they do thee same for the buzzer?

Check the countdown, 7. The buzzer was cued 1 second late according to our clocks.

Watch the countdown and the siren come in one second late.

The siren was late. Not the umpire.

 

[seven]

Check the countdown, 7. The buzzer was cued 1 second late according to our clocks.

Watch the countdown and the siren come in one second late.

The siren was late. Not the umpire.

Yep. Had time to watch it again, sober.

 

[DragaTheCro]

Agreed; my only problem was just how long it took for the siren to go after the TV clock expired. Really odd.

Exactly. There was a 4 second gap from when the time ran out to when the siren went. There’s still been no explanation for this.

 

[TigerFlag2017]

When I watched the game on Friday my initial thoughts were that we were scratchy and will have real trouble with Port.

After watching the replay and giving it some further thought I think we're right in it.
Our defence is very solid and having Broad back in gives us more options (as well as his hardness).
I'd give DTLD the job on Dixon and release Balta to relief ruck. His mobility is a real asset.
Lynch back in crashing packs, and won't kick as badly next week. Conditions will be better.
Our mids are miles better than what we dished up against Port last time. Prestia hitting his straps nicely.
Last time we flew in on the day! Probably contributed to our last quarter. This time we're going the day before.
We gave away silly 50m frees against Port. We were sucked in against the Lions. Much better against the Saints. Port will try and get under our skin again but Dimma will be in their ear again this week.

Bring the heat and we are a massive chance.

The improvement in our contested possession stats will be the key difference with the last game.

I was surprised by our sloppy skills against St Kilda. Possibly it was the humidity. But we need to much cleaner this week if any chance to win.

Will be a cracking game.

 

[Maneevo]

Exactly. There was a 4 second gap from when the time ran out to when the siren went. There’s still been no explanation for this.

If you read back only a few posts TBR gives a great explanation.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

AFLCA

8 Martin
5 Houli, Lynch
4 Bolton, Edwards
3 Wilkie
1 Nankervis

Unusual breakdown which could've been achieved any number of ways and indicates some disparity. One possibility:

Hardwick - Ratten
5 Lynch - Martin
4 Houli - Bolton
3 Martin - Wilkie
2 Edwards - Edwards
1 Nankervis - Houli

Player	Votes	Gms	Career	Age	Ca	Co	Ha	St	Me	Sy	NM	GWS	WB	Br	PA	GC	Es	WC	Fr	Ge	Ad	Br	St
Martin, Dustin	50	18	242	29y105d	4							7	10	7			9				5		8
Bolton, Shai	36	17	45	21y306d							6	4	2	8			9			3			4
Cotchin, Trent	26	15	249	30y185d		4		1					3			9		9
Balta, Noah	23	15	28	20y352d					6				4	1				9	3
Vlastuin, Nick	21	18	159	26y173d						3	3					2		3	4	3	3
Lambert, Kane	20	18	113	28y318d					10	5						3					2
Short, Jayden	18	19	90	24y259d						4	1		4						1	2	6
Grimes, Dylan	16	18	169	29y85d							6		1							9
Houli, Bachar	15	11	218	32y150d		8												2					5
Graham, Jack	14	14	53	22y227d						3							5	2	3		1
Edwards, Shane	13	8	263	31y350d																	9		4
Baker, Liam	11	18	40	22y256d										9			2
Riewoldt, Jack	10	19	281	31y344d												1				9
Lynch, Tom J.	9	17	173	27y344d					1					3									5
Prestia, Dion	9	7	162	27y363d	9
Eggmolesse-Smith, Derek	8	6	8	22y96d							8
Nankervis, Toby	8	9	80	26y58d				5												2			1
Higgins, Jack	6	10	43	21y167d					6
McIntosh, Kamdyn	6	16	106	26y189d						2									4
Pickett, Marlion	6	17	18	28y277d							5								1
Rioli, Daniel	4	16	93	23y176d	4
					17	12	0	6	23	17	29	11	24	28	0	15	25	25	16	28	26	0	27

 

[year of the tiger]

Good to see Bolton and Balta in the top 4 - goods signs going forward

 

[BT Tiger]

Good to see Bolton and Balta in the top 4 - goods signs going forward

Plus Baker, Short and Graham making the top 10.

Edit: Houli actually edges out Baker for top 10. Still good signs though.

 

[Quickdraw]

I'll expand a bit.

What I found out is the timekeepers use a second clock in case of errors. For example there's time when the player's movement is the cue for the time clock to start (eg a kick-in) so the player might go but then the umpire blows the whistle and calls them back because of the position on the mark or the other footy is on the ground or whatever so the clock has ticked a couple of false seconds.

When that happens they don't add the time back on to the main clock (the TV one) but keep a second clock which they 'add' the missed time back on at the next opportunity, which is a stoppage.

So if there was an instance of that and the siren came before a chance to add it back on, they would let the siren go for those extra seconds. A very rare circumstance but quite possible.

Thanks TBR. That's made things clearer.

Personally I was ok with the goal at the time, just disappointed that we let one in so late.

 

[DavidSSS]

I'll expand a bit.

What I found out is the timekeepers use a second clock in case of errors. For example there's time when the player's movement is the cue for the time clock to start (eg a kick-in) so the player might go but then the umpire blows the whistle and calls them back because of the position on the mark or the other footy is on the ground or whatever so the clock has ticked a couple of false seconds.

When that happens they don't add the time back on to the main clock (the TV one) but keep a second clock which they 'add' the missed time back on at the next opportunity, which is a stoppage.

So if there was an instance of that and the siren came before a chance to add it back on, they would let the siren go for those extra seconds. A very rare circumstance but quite possible.

That's an interesting one and I suspect partly to do with the reduction in normal time in quarters from 25 to 20 minutes years ago. They said that the quarters would not reduce in length because they were going to be stricter in their interpretation of calling time on. That seemed to work and, although my memory of this is vague, the point was to measure the time in play more strictly for various reasons such as not allowing time wasting to impact on the game.

I am not thoroughly convinced that the TV clock is truly accurate down to the second. Hence, as long as we have good sirens (a problem until they replaced the bell with a siren way back and replaced some sirens), then the current situation of the quarter ending when the umpire calls it does not need changing. Surely they have the umpires wired up enough now to receive a signal that the quarter should end.

When that goal happened last week I just thought, oh well, looks to me like he kicked as the siren went but the umpire had not ended the quarter. Clearly the goal should be counted as the umpire is the arbiter of the end of the quarter. I think I thought about it for maybe 5 seconds. Didn't worry me then doesn't worry me now.

DS

 

[tigerhalsey]

Cant we have something like the NBA where the goal post lights up, it would solve alot of issues

 

[TigerMad]

Cant we have something like the NBA where the goal post lights up, it would solve alot of issues

Or maybe the ball just explodes!

 

[Harry]

Or maybe the ball just explodes!

or the players are zapped and they fall to the ground

 

[seven]

Or maybe the ball just explodes!

and if you kick a point, you have to drop your shorts and run around in a circle before pulling them back up.

 

[leon]

Or maybe the ball just explodes!

My preference!