So called, he wouldn't even have the balls to walk pass the grog squad. No supporter in my eyes.
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So called, he wouldn't even have the balls to walk pass the grog squad. No supporter in my eyes.
Moggies have been running things extremely well since the days of Costa n Cook, we simply took notice n decided to operate in a similar manner. Nothing more than very well run professional and caring organisations.
Clubs that are poorly run, constantly poking and prodding at boards, coaches, list and recruiting etc simply spend one hell of a long time with their arses dragging along the bitumen, occasionally getting at best a momentary bounce off the top of a speed hump.
We've all been there before and for all the AFL's dabbling, manipulating and interfering nothing changes the fact that some mobs are masters at *smile* up for extended periods. You can give the idiots all the support n advantage possible, but if there's *smile* wits running these little circuses, nothing will improve them.
King said very similar things when Karen tried to go at us about the Taranto and Hopper deals, although Karen’s main issue is the length of contract offered. Why that bothers him so much I have no idea.
It won't be a popular opinion, but I reckon the Suns and Giants need some sort of ongoing assistance or they will never achieve success.
They will need to keep paying players more or they will leave- while the Giants current situation is in large part to overestimating the abilities of a few of their players, if they didn't over pay them they would have left.
Good players occasionally leave established clubs, usually for huge offers elsewhere, or opportunity. But very few stay at the Giants is Subs unless they get paid at least as much, or more than they would elsewhere.
That won't change until they have done sustained success, which will be difficult if players keep losing unless they are overpaid.
The problem is everything the AFL does is reactionary. They gave the Suns assurance because they being being *smile*. Now they are less *smile* they will probably refine that assistance.
They need some ongoing salary cap support, and probably ongoing easier access to local players, which the Suns currently have.
They will need to keep paying players more or they will leave- while the Giants current situation is in large part to overestimating the abilities of a few of their players, if they didn't over pay them they would have left.
Good players occasionally leave established clubs, usually for huge offers elsewhere, or opportunity. But very few stay at the Giants is Subs unless they get paid at least as much, or more than they would elsewhere.
That won't change until they have done sustained success, which will be difficult if players keep losing unless they are overpaid.
The problem is everything the AFL does is reactionary. They gave the Suns assurance because they being being *smile*. Now they are less *smile* they will probably refine that assistance.
They need some ongoing salary cap support, and probably ongoing easier access to local players, which the Suns currently have.
Just to clarify, the Roos poach on of our young guns, and they should get assistance?
The Roos are where they are because of the decisions they have made, like the Blooze and Dees, and even us, before them. If other factors will keep North down the bottom an extra draft pick or 2 won't change that, and their future should be considered.
It's unbelievable
He bags us more then Parrot and seems to throw us under the bus too.
But always remember who's paying him.
"while the Giants current situation is in large part to overestimating the abilities"
They have made finals and a GF, maybe it's just their window closed a couple of years ago
Why are they writing articles about when we do it.
Melbourne is after Grundy he is on a 1 mill.
Kelly went to WC after winning a flag.
Geelong got Cameron
Where were the articles on them,??
That's the question we have to keep throwing back. What happened to SOS 'poaching' players from them when he joined Carltony?
You make a fair point for extra assistance to the expansion clubs but I’d hate to see it be in the form of extra salary cap or draft picks.
What those clubs should get is extra soft cap allowance, possibly funded by the AFL (via clubs like us). They need good coaches and administrators, not more access to draft talent that with their current setups, they will inevitably screw up anyway (looking at you in particular GCS).
Give them more salary cap space and you’ll repeat the past with Brisbane and Sydney from the early 00’s. Amazingly both those clubs only became powerhouses when they got themselves sorted offield, then they exploited the ever-loving crap out of their concessions to the detriment of the rest of the comp.
It certainly won't because I agree with you. Cola was a sound policy and Eddie McGuire killed it by convincing the footy public of a lie.
An increase in normal salary cap would also be a sensible move. Sydney, GWS and the Gold Coast are always going to have to pay a player retention tax. No-one grows up dreaming of playing at Carrara or Homebush and very few of their players are going to be local.
You can be the best run club in the history of the game and you will still face a never ending battle to keep kids who want to go back to their home state. Money is an essential tool in that fight, especially with free agency as it is.
They were still wiping the no name players and using it to keep bigger name players.
It's bullshitt
They show the AFL who needs it and then they apply.
Franklin dosent need Cola
Heeney and Parker don't need Cola.
Hickey most likely needs Cola
Like just about everyone, you clearly don't know how cola worked.
I can understand a player retention tax for Giants and Suns; they are not established clubs and it is undoubtedly harder for them to keep and attract real talent.
But COLA for the Swans is bullsh1t and was rightly abolished. The Swans are a well established extremely professional club and do not find it hard to attract and keep players. The cost of living in Sydney thing is a furphy. Yes it may be a bit higher but no reasonably established AFL player is going to have an issue with it. If anything you might allow a bit more for young players whilst they are establishing their careers.
How far do you go? It costs more to live in Melbourne than it does in Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane. Do Melbourne clubs get an additional allowance over the clubs in those cities?
I don't think cola ever had anything to do with the cost of living, apart from in name. It was introduced when other concessions to Sydney and Brisbane were removed, it was always designed to help keep players.
That may be the case but the rubbish cost of living argument was always trotted out for the Swans. As if a footballer on $400k plus a year needs to worry about cost of living.
Sydney and Brisbane don’t need it. They are both professional and very well run clubs that can clearly attract and retain players without additional assistance. Giants and Suns were another story.
Everything the AFL turns to crap.
Tassie have to make sure they pick their people to run the club, not the AFL if they want any success.
I don’t get the point of that article. Riewoldt is being paid a whole lot less than conman jones and is happy to stay. Roos poach one of our up and coming young “stars” ( we thought at the time) and that’s ok. They give up their second round pick and that’s not ok. They end up with pick 1 and 55 and that’s our problem. Not good work by us but wrong to do that to a poorly run club. We could give up 3-4 1st and 2nd round picks and possibly premiership players to secure 2 decent players from a club that played in a grand final only 3 years ago and that’s not ok. No mention that those 2 players will probably be forced to go to other clubs due to poor management of the giants salary cap. Ralphy, how about highlighted the bad management of the Roos and giants rather than wanting to nobble a well run club that you supposedly support?
