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Always go the interstate team, it's like no one won it. Freo would be my preference, but they won't win it, so Sydney it is. I'll now break my own rule and say I'd rather Collingwood, Melbourne or the Dogs win it than Brisbane. Nothing at stake there because the Bears are no chance.
And NO Geelong Spook!
 
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Get the feeling the AFL is setting us up ie hold onto some other vision, generate comments from us and the fans and the media while they do, then release something we haven’t seen that sheds a different light. Just smells of an AFL set up…..
 
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all a bit messy this 'was it a goal' business ... which is why the AFL should put it to bed with their secret vision...

if it exists ..
 
Get the feeling the AFL is setting us up ie hold onto some other vision, generate comments from us and the fans and the media while they do, then release something we haven’t seen that sheds a different light. Just smells of an AFL set up…..
I don't think thats the case, but if it is, the ARC process farce is 10 times worse than we thought.

Maybe they have a nerd working away furiously on photoshop? Maybe the delay is because they are hand-drawing the ball onto each frame of film, pre-digital animation style, so it has the trajectory that makes them look correct? LOL. What a joke.
 
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I don't think thats the case, but if it is, the ARC process farce is 10 times worse than we thought.

Maybe they have a nerd working away furiously on photoshop? Maybe the delay is because they are hand-drawing the ball onto each frame of film, pre-digital animation style, so it has the trajectory that makes them look correct? LOL. What a joke.
The Machiavellian AFL hate us. This is absolutely something they’d do.
 
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They're just interviewing kids who know how to Deep Fake video footage.
 
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Get the feeling the AFL is setting us up ie hold onto some other vision, generate comments from us and the fans and the media while they do, then release something we haven’t seen that sheds a different light. Just smells of an AFL set up…..
With it being such a controversial decision, it's hard to understand why the AFL didn't show the so called conclusive evidence at the first opportunity.

It's easy to come to a conclusion that there is no vision.
 
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The Machiavellian AFL hate us. This is absolutely something they’d do.
I know they hate us, but this set up scenario wouldn't work. Our line, and many other neutrals, has been you can't overturn based on the footage we saw. If they produce footage that conclusively proves its a point, we, and the neutrals, would then say "OK, why didn't you show us that in the first place you *smile* sticks!"
 
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With it being such a controversial decision, it's hard to understand why the AFL didn't show the so called conclusive evidence at the first opportunity.

It's easy to come to a conclusion that there is no vision.
Not according to Wilson. She reckons someone very close to it all says they definitely have conclusive footage. Of course the AFL’s definition of conclusive could be utterly inconclusive. But I’m wary…
 
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all a bit messy this 'was it a goal' business ... which is why the AFL should put it to bed with their secret vision...

if it exists ..
Where’s Zapruder when you need him!
 
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I know they hate us, but this set up scenario wouldn't work. Our line, and many other neutrals, has been you can't overturn based on the footage we saw. If they produce footage that conclusively proves its a point, we, and the neutrals, would then say "OK, why didn't you show us that in the first place you *smile* sticks!"
I’ll say this for the 10th time: the ARC didn’t overturn anything. People have to stop saying that. It’s incorrect.

Doesn’t mean ARC didn’t stuff up the process by adjudicating off inconclusive evidence, but stating they overruled the goal umpire is not correct. The goal umpire did not rule on anything - otherwise he wouldn’t have asked for a review by ARC.
 
With it being such a controversial decision, it's hard to understand why the AFL didn't show the so called conclusive evidence at the first opportunity.

It's easy to come to a conclusion that there is no vision.
There is no extra footage. They only access the broadcasters footage. That is why the AFL have said nothing. They want it to go away. The decision was made in 15 seconds, not by one but by two “experts” . It should be very simple to justify. They obviously had conclusive evidence to overturn it. Or not.
 
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I’ll say this for the 10th time: the ARC didn’t overturn anything. People have to stop saying that. It’s incorrect.

Doesn’t mean ARC didn’t stuff up the process by adjudicating off inconclusive evidence, but stating they overruled the goal umpire is not correct. The goal umpire did not rule on anything - otherwise he wouldn’t have asked for a review by ARC.
He called it a goal. But wanted to check to make sure. He made a decision, but wanted to confirm it. Umpires call was a goal. Doesn’t that mean they overturned his decision?
 
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He called it a goal. But wanted to check to make sure. He made a decision, but wanted to confirm it. Umpires call was a goal. Doesn’t that mean they overturned his decision?
Sorry MD. That is completely wrong. He did NOT make a decision. If he did he would have put 2 fingers up and waved his flags. Instead, he said he thinks it’s a goal but we better check. And once you check with ARC you hand the actual decision over to them. They then either call it a goal, behind, or if it’s inconclusive revert to the goal umpires call. Which is what they should have done but didn’t. But otherwise the goal umpire did NOT make a decision. He referred it off to ARC for a decision and therefore there is nothing that has been overruled, at all.
 
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I’ll say this for the 10th time: the ARC didn’t overturn anything. People have to stop saying that. It’s incorrect.

Doesn’t mean ARC didn’t stuff up the process by adjudicating off inconclusive evidence, but stating they overruled the goal umpire is not correct. The goal umpire did not rule on anything - otherwise he wouldn’t have asked for a review by ARC.
its not incorrect. The on field call was a goal. Conclusive evidence is needed to overturn that, thats the black-letter process.
 
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The AFL will never release the footage because there is none.

If they had it there is no reason why they wouldn’t have released it by now to put this to bed.

The AFL know that this could become a real problem for them because if the footage they have is still open to interpretation could lead down a litigious path that they definitely don’t want.

It’s a clear case of let’s stay silent on the matter and let it blow away in the wind.
 
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