Disco said:It will be our Australian version of the "curse of the bambino".
The curse of the bambino was hogwash. Most of those Red Sox teams for 86 years weren't very good
Disco said:It will be our Australian version of the "curse of the bambino".
Baloo said:As a father of two boys, the biggest injustice here is that there are 34 young men who have been subjected to hundreds of injections and no one is prepared to tell them exactly what they were injected with.
For that fact alone the club needs to be taken to task in the toughest possible way.
Yep, even them. That could be hard, though. I tried to support the Pies when they were playing Brisbane in a GF, because they were the Victorian side and I was watching the game at a mate's house, and his family are all Collingwood. I lasted a quarter.tigertim said:Even Colingwood?
tigertim said:I said "their stance".
John Fahey's view of their 'stance':tigertim said:I said "their stance".
After what Essendrugs have managed to get away with I'd almost do laps of Vic park n Princes, Optus, Visy Whatever park naked if Colonwood n Carlscum could beat the druggies this year.CarnTheTiges said:Yep, even them. That could be hard, though. I tried to support the Pies when they were playing Brisbane in a GF, because they were the Victorian side and I was watching the game at a mate's house, and his family are all Collingwood. I lasted a quarter.
And that's the joy of a "stance" or opinion, different people see it differently.bruntonave. said:John Fahey's view of their 'stance':
"Essendon's behaviour though this was almost un-Australian," Fahey, who was WADA chief from 2007 to 2013, said.
"To effectively shoot the messenger, and prevent a proper examination of what everybody knows occurred – and everybody knows that what occurred was, to say the least, strange if not a breach of anti-doping rules.
"It is still extraordinarily strange that players could be given thousands of needles, off site.
"Every attempt was made to prevent an independent tribunal examining all the facts. That has cost literally millions of dollars and put the future sporting careers of many young footballers in jeopardy. It should have been dealt with long ago, and that is the tragedy of the whole case – that it wasn't allowed to proceed in a reasonable time to a proper conclusion.
"I can understand the players' relief. From the club's point of view, if they feel jubilant today then my advice is that they should re-read Ziggy Switkowski's report and then examine their own behaviour in this whole process. It has left a lot to be desired."
They weren't found guilty, they said they weren't guilty therefore they would feel vindicated. Not hard.YinnarTiger said::headscratch How does a not proven verdict about the players vindicate Hird's and EFC's stance? Their stance is that they are innocent and the rest of us are vilifying them (Hird and Essendon).
tigertim said:they said they weren't guilty therefore they would feel vindicated. Not hard.
Rightio.......YinnarTiger said:Who are the 'theys' that you refer to. I was talking about Hird and the EFC. The only one I know of who has publicly said they aren't guilty is the chief football writer of the Hun.
No.tigertim said:And that's the joy of a "stance" or opinion, different people see it differently.
Well, as far as I know, in the opinion of the tribunal they weren't found guilty.bruntonave. said:No.
What EFC did, and how they reacted to the investigation, is not a matter of opinion.
Nor not guilty.tigertim said:Well, as far as I know, in the opinion of the tribunal they weren't found guilty.
tigertim said:Well, as far as I know, in the opinion of the tribunal they weren't found guilty.
Every Anzac day, I used to root for the bummers, cos I hate the maggots so much, now I will just watch the game and hope its a nil all draw.tigertim said:Even Colingwood?
Is that what I said anywhere?ninjahaha said:So TT...
Your satisfied that a club can give players thousands of injection's with no records and the caretakers of our game are prepared to let that meet their standards for no verdict?
So do Dank and all the others get their jobs back?tigertim said:Well, as far as I know, in the opinion of the tribunal they weren't found guilty.