I think many of us wondered where Grimesey fits in this season, not good enough in the air anymore to take a tall, not quick enough to take a small, and I think we saw that yesterday, a very much in between game, but essentially before the season started many of us thought he was borderline best 22, he probably isn't anymore and we need to reward 1 of the younger guys. Brown if we want to aid distribution out of our back half, Tresize if we want more defensive toughness. We have younger players ready to step up and if yesterday is the Grimes we will see for the rest of the year, it does kind of taint his legacy a bit, its not good seeing someone like Grimes who has been outstanding for us, especially in 2019 when Rance went down with the knee, we just saw Grimes grow from an ancillary part of that defence to the key man.