David Teague

[craig]

Parkin and walls were premiership coaches at Carlton so hardly failed but in recent times yes, from Wayne Brittain on !!

Carltons biggest problem is they still haven't got out of the 70's, 80's, 90's mentality of Hail Mary Big names be it Players or Coaches.

Off Field Carlton haven't got it right and still cant seem to get their @^$@$ high and tight and pull uniformly in the same direction, there is more power plays off field seemingly than on it.

Judd, Malthouse, Pagan all the last true big name vestiges of this old mantra at Princes Park, however the beast reared its head with the possibility of Clarkson being available, then they burned the next big name coach in Lyon in the process.

Malthouse went to Carlton out of spite and malice and for a paycheck desperate to beat the Maggots and Figgie.

Mickey went to the wrong club, and Pagan just went for the Godfather paycheck he couldn't refuse.

Sadly for Denis he didn't have Carey, Longmire, Archer, Fairly, Blakey, Allison, Grant, Schwass,, Simpson, Stevens, McAdam, Martyn and McKernan,

The dominant Carlton sides of the 80's and 90's were strewn with signings from WA and SA and big transfers from other clubs mainly Greg Wells from the Demons, Earl Spalding, also from the Demons, David Rhys-Jones, and Greg Diesel Williams from Sydney, Harry Madden from the Bombers, and Dean Rice from the Saints.

Kernahan (SA), Naley (SA), Motley (SA), Bradley (SA), Mackay (SA), Richard Dennis (WA), Jon Dorotich (WA), Maclure (WA), Fitzpatrick (WA), Hunter (WA), Bosustow(WA), Ralph (WA), Blackwell (WA) amongst others all recruited from interstate leagues and all had a major bearing on the success of the CFC during that time.

A few home grown champs along the way no doubt helped with Bruce Doull, Southby, Wayne Dominator Johnston, Wayne Harmes, Peter Dean, Silvagni and Kouta but Carlton were a club that recruited and cherry picked heavily from the SANFL and WAFL and other clubs with big bags of cash.

To a certain extent they are still doing it chasing hail Mary signings.

But rather than cherry picking the very top end talent they used to corner the market with in the glory years they find themselves chasing lower hanging fruit but still paying a premium penny for it.

 

[Sintiger]

Carltons biggest problem is they still haven't got out of the 70's, 80's, 90's mentality of Hail Mary Big names be it Players or Coaches.

Off Field Carlton haven't got it right and still cant seem to get their @^$@$ high and tight and pull uniformly in the same direction, there is more power plays off field seemingly than on it.

Judd, Malthouse, Pagan all the last true big name vestiges of this old mantra at Princes Park, however the beast reared its head with the possibility of Clarkson being available, then they burned the next big name coach in Lyon in the process.

Malthouse went to Carlton out of spite and malice and for a paycheck desperate to beat the Maggots and Figgie.

Mickey went to the wrong club, and Pagan just went for the Godfather paycheck he couldn't refuse.

Sadly for Denis he didn't have Carey, Longmire, Archer, Fairly, Blakey, Allison, Grant, Schwass,, Simpson, Stevens, McAdam, Martyn and McKernan,

The dominant Carlton sides of the 80's and 90's were strewn with signings from WA and SA and big transfers from other clubs mainly Greg Wells from the Demons, Earl Spalding, also from the Demons, David Rys-Jones, and Greg Diesel Williams from Sydney, Harry Madden from the Bombers, and Dean Rice from the Saints.

Kernahan (SA), Naley (SA), Motley (SA), Bradley (SA), Mackay (SA), Richard Dennis (WA), Jon Dorotich (WA), Maclure (WA), Fitzpatrick (WA), Hunter (WA), Bosustow(WA), Ralph (WA), Blackwell (WA) amongst others all recruited from interstate leagues and all had a major bearing on the success of the CFC during that time.

A few home grown champs along the way no doubt helped with Bruce Doull, Wayne Dominator Johnston, Wayne Harmes, Peter Dean, Silvagni and Kouta but Carlton were a club that recruited and cherry picked heavily from the SANFL and WAFL and other clubs with big bags of cash.

To a certain extent they are still doing it chasing hail Mary signings.

But rather than cherry picking the very top end talent they used to corner the market with in the glory years they still have find themselves chasing lower hanging fruit but still paying a premium penny for it.

I can’t help thinking that the appointment of Greg Williams in more of the same .
Years ago a friend of mine joined the Blue suits, who were the business types coterie for the Club. He hated it and only lasted a couple of years and he told me that these guys ( they were all men) acted liked they owned the club. They were so used to running business and telling people what to do they thought they could do the same at CFC.
I reckon that attitude still exists and on top of that you have old players like Williams and Kernahan still wielding a lot of power with close ties to the blue suits. They think they are entitled but the reality is that footy clubs survive and thrive with the everyday people being engaged. That’s what our club has done really well.
Entitlement doesn’t work anymore with Salary caps and soft caps

 

[DavidSSS]

Carltons biggest problem is they still haven't got out of the 70's, 80's, 90's mentality of Hail Mary Big names be it Players or Coaches.

Off Field Carlton haven't got it right and still cant seem to get their @^$@$ high and tight and pull uniformly in the same direction, there is more power plays off field seemingly than on it.

Judd, Malthouse, Pagan all the last true big name vestiges of this old mantra at Princes Park, however the beast reared its head with the possibility of Clarkson being available, then they burned the next big name coach in Lyon in the process.

Malthouse went to Carlton out of spite and malice and for a paycheck desperate to beat the Maggots and Figgie.

Mickey went to the wrong club, and Pagan just went for the Godfather paycheck he couldn't refuse.

Sadly for Denis he didn't have Carey, Longmire, Archer, Fairly, Blakey, Allison, Grant, Schwass,, Simpson, Stevens, McAdam, Martyn and McKernan,

The dominant Carlton sides of the 80's and 90's were strewn with signings from WA and SA and big transfers from other clubs mainly Greg Wells from the Demons, Earl Spalding, also from the Demons, David Rys-Jones, and Greg Diesel Williams from Sydney, Harry Madden from the Bombers, and Dean Rice from the Saints.

Kernahan (SA), Naley (SA), Motley (SA), Bradley (SA), Mackay (SA), Richard Dennis (WA), Jon Dorotich (WA), Maclure (WA), Fitzpatrick (WA), Hunter (WA), Bosustow(WA), Ralph (WA), Blackwell (WA) amongst others all recruited from interstate leagues and all had a major bearing on the success of the CFC during that time.

A few home grown champs along the way no doubt helped with Bruce Doull, Wayne Dominator Johnston, Wayne Harmes, Peter Dean, Silvagni and Kouta but Carlton were a club that recruited and cherry picked heavily from the SANFL and WAFL and other clubs with big bags of cash.

To a certain extent they are still doing it chasing hail Mary signings.

But rather than cherry picking the very top end talent they used to corner the market with in the glory years they find themselves chasing lower hanging fruit but still paying a premium penny for it.

Long may they live in the past, as long as they don't find a way around the salary cap etc.

DS

 

[craig]

Bolton has gone to Collingwood with Leppa

Who has Chuckles ??

Poor ol Chuckles the Blues dressed him up like a shiny star then threw him into the volcano like a Virgin Sacrifice from times long gone.

Come to think of it they just did the same thing with Geisch .... I mean Teaguey!!.

 

[craig]

I can’t help thinking that the appointment of Greg Williams in more of the same .
Years ago a friend of mine joined the Blue suits, who were the business types coterie for the Club. He hated it and only lasted a couple of years and he told me that these guys ( they were all men) acted liked they owned the club. They were so used to running business and telling people what to do they thought they could do the same at CFC.
I reckon that attitude still exists and on top of that you have old players like Williams and Kernahan still wielding a lot of power with close ties to the blue suits. They think they are entitled but the reality is that footy clubs survive and thrive with the everyday people being engaged. That’s what our club has done really well.
Entitlement doesn’t work anymore with Salary caps and soft caps

Exackery !!

 

[wayne]

Knights has gone to West Coast

 

[craig]

Knighta the Scape Goat or the Escape Goat .............................

 

[DavidSSS]

Knighta the Scape Goat or the Escape Goat .............................

The latter, and he's run as far away as possible.

DS

 

[Streak]

Some people just aren’t cut out to be senior coaches, but are excellent assistants.

Robert Wiley for example.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Parkin won the 81, 82 and 95 Flags for the Blues.

Walls got them 87.

Kernahan, Bradley, Williams, Rhys-Jones, McKay, Bosustow, Perovic, Wells, Fitzpatrick, Hunter, Dorotich, Madden, Alvin, Spalding, Rice, Naley, Clape, Ditchburn, Jones, Maylin, Klomp, English, Bortolotto, Hogg, Pearce, Manton recruited with Elliott's chequebook!

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Kernahan, Bradley, Williams, Rhys-Jones, McKay, Bosustow, Perovic, Wells, Fitzpatrick, Hunter, Dorotich, Madden, Alvin, Spalding, Rice, Naley, Clape, Ditchburn, Jones, Maylin, Klomp, English, Bortolotto, Hogg, Pearce, Manton recruited with Elliott's chequebook!

The problems did seem to start when the cap was introduced.

 

[DavidSSS]

The problems did seem to start when the cap was introduced.

Funny that

DS

 

[ceehook2]

The problems did seem to start when the cap was introduced.

their problems started after being caught cheating the salary cap

 

[TigerFlag2017]

Knights has gone to West Coast

Interesting that there never seems to be any interest to lure him back. You see Wayne Campbell talking about his Richmond days fondly. But never hear boo from Knights.

I can't recall if his retirement was messy. Does anyone remember?

 

[taztiger4]

Interesting that there never seems to be any interest to lure him back. You see Wayne Campbell talking about his Richmond days fondly. But never hear boo from Knights.

I can't recall if his retirement was messy. Does anyone remember?

Yep, from memory he didn't want to retire

 

[zippadeee]

Interesting that there never seems to be any interest to lure him back. You see Wayne Campbell talking about his Richmond days fondly. But never hear boo from Knights.

I can't recall if his retirement was messy. Does anyone remember?

Frawley forced knighter into retirement and played him against Essendon one Friday night game as his farewell game.
Knights didn't want to retire.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Frawley forced knighter into retirement and played him against Essendon one Friday night game as his farewell game.
Knights didn't want to retire.

He also dropped him when he would have registered the 2nd 100th consecutive games milestone. I don’t know what happened, but there always seemed to be bad feelings between Knights and Frawley.

 

[zippadeee]

He also dropped him when he would have registered the 2nd 100th consecutive games milestone. I don’t know what happened, but there always seemed to be bad feelings between Knights and Frawley.

It was evident after 1 year in the job Frawley replaced knights as captain with Campbell

 

[toothless]

Knighter joined KB's pity party

 

[No 4]

Frawley forced knighter into retirement and played him against Essendon one Friday night game as his farewell game.
Knights didn't want to retire.

he did a lap of the ground that night.