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Damien Hardwick

Thanks for clarifying. Sounds like Mansell did nothing much and it's all on the Willy *smile* for a coward punch and, having an 'Irish temper' myself, I understand Dimma going in to bat for his players. However, it's just not very smart or in keeping with his role, public status and the experience he now has behind him. He is not a newbie coach but regarded as a statesman of the game after his great success.

Excuse the cliche - but he needs to be better than lose it and go over the top in public so blatantly (you can curse under your breath all you like, but challenging blokes to a fight!? Funny ... but really unwise, Dimma).

And in retrospect, he must have gone spare over Stewart clocking Prestia - but almost definitely minders like Livingstone make sure he's calm, under control and on message (just spin your cliche after cliche) by presser.
I read somewhere that Richmond have denied that Dimma challenged the guys to a fight. Called them a weak *smile* certainly.

I know he's a respected coach and all that, but this wasn't a tackle that went a bit high, this was a dog's act and had to be called out on the spot. If that happened to my son or anyone else I had a "father figure" relationship with, I don't think I could have contained myself.
 
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I read somewhere that Richmond have denied that Dimma challenged the guys to a fight. Called them a weak *smile* certainly.

I know he's a respected coach and all that, but this wasn't a tackle that went a bit high, this was a dog's act and had to be called out on the spot. If that happened to my son or anyone else I had a "father figure" relationship with, I don't think I could have contained myself.
Yep I recognise 'heat of the moment' and all that. Also, yes you're right that the club denies the fight challenge so I retract that part, trusting it's true. But you can bet some of the media will be digging, digging ...
Lucky Tom Morris got himself sacked. :p
 
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Dimma would be testing the Club's patience big time at the moment.

I'm only just catching up, so may have missed a few articles.

But he would seriously be testing Benny and Peggy's patience. And they should be irritated with him.

Its bad enough the comments on Marvel from last year (utterly terribly articulated comments that pisses the AFL off big time); its bad enough his phrasing re: Dusty going with our blessing (which opened up the pandoras box all year re: dusty leaving); its bad enough his poor choice of words re Dan Andrews and covid. Then there's the poor choice of words re 'winning free kicks'. And it was him that penned 'Lynch needing to play on the edge' which has reinforced the view Lynch is a thug by many. I hated him for that terrible phrasing and strategy.

Unlike many of you here, I have never wanted him to be removed as coach these last 2 years. But *smile* me dead, Tim Livingstone better start earning his paypacket and *smile* manage the football dept better. He needs to stop cruising does Livvo and start working out a way to:

a) pull Dimma's head in a bit
b) get him some anger management help
c) get him to practice his choice of words at press conferences and interviews better
d) surround him with better people for longer periods of time - like Balme and others.

He is becoming the worse thing a club can afford, a real distraction.
 
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Dimma would be testing the Club's patience big time at the moment.

I'm only just catching up, so may have missed a few articles.

But he would seriously be testing Benny and Peggy's patience. And they should be irritated with him.

Its bad enough the comments on Marvel from last year (utterly terribly articulated comments that pisses the AFL off big time); its bad enough his phrasing re: Dusty going with our blessing (which opened up the pandoras box all year re: dusty leaving); its bad enough his poor choice of words re Dan Andrews and covid. Then there's the poor choice of words re 'winning free kicks'. And it was him that penned 'Lynch needing to play on the edge' which has reinforced the view Lynch is a thug by many. I hated him for that terrible phrasing and strategy.

Unlike many of you here, I have never wanted him to be removed as coach these last 2 years. But *smile* me dead, Tim Livingstone better start earning his paypacket and *smile* manage the football dept better. He needs to stop cruising does Livvo and start working out a way to:

a) pull Dimma's head in a bit
b) get him some anger management help
c) get him to practice his choice of words at press conferences and interviews better
d) surround him with better people for longer periods of time - like Balme and others.

He is becoming the worse thing a club can afford, a real distraction.
Spot on Bob. Benny and Peggy only got themselves to blame though They signed off on his extension and agreed the pay increase when other coaches were accepting pay cuts.

He has become an arrogant 3x Premiership coach. The club is a victim of his own success. Clarkson, Sheedy, Worsfold, Roo's all believed their own BS in the end.

Arrogant is a way that he doesn't consider the consequences of his actions or words on others including players, staff and supporters.

At least he has an excuse though unlike B1 and B2 (Chris and Brad Scott)
 
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Where to begin? First of all, I’ll block out the manipulative AFL controlled footy media noise and the biggest AFL arse licker of them all in Barrett and try and focus on what is happening out on the field when the Tigers play.

Do the many and ongoing injuries determine the MC to make changes that in many games in ’22 have not worked? Perhaps but Hardwick has always liked to “fiddle” with players playing in different positions but unfortunately for him the quality of the current list, for reasons discussed at length on this forum, is not as good or as consistent as in the last 4/5 years.

Leads given up that has resulted in games lost is a disease that supporters rightly ask, is or isn’t being addressed at training – with specific focus on goal kicking and how the ball is moved into the forward line to name two of the more obvious issues facing the side on game day. The results suggest they are not and if they are discussed the message is not getting through.

And there’s the rub – if the coach truly believes he has the answers to the problems we are all seeing out on the field, and that includes opposition coaches and players seeing these problems as well, why hasn’t Hardwick been able to pick the sides to implement solutions he refers to in his press conferences?

The answer to that is I think simple. Hardwick is not listening to the advice surrounding him which accounts for some of his frustration. He has always been a coach big on culture but I suspect short on tactics – he has worked to the best of his abilities with some excellent people around him that in the past (and with a powerful and well-balanced list) drove the bus, particularly in selection and on game day.

Whatever unfolds over the next few weeks, the club would be delinquent if they did not access the coach’s performance and look at his contract (which we are not privy to) at the end of the season.

I would like to think both Hardwick and Martin (who have both enjoyed an enormous amount of success at Richmond because of being at Richmond) make decisions about their futures which puts the best interests of the club first. Their respective contributions at the club are safe and they will be seen as club legends. I’m hoping Hardwick makes the right decision for the club and if he truly believes he has the answers then I’d like to see some tangible evidence of that very soon.
I'm really struggling to work out what your point is. You know better? Dimma should resign?

All this second and third guessing, wild speculation, flawed logic, hindsight genius stuff is doing my head in. I reckon Dimma is doing a great job.
 
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So the break down is
Man yells and swears at footy game?

How often would that happen at a game?
 
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Brad Scott's 'aggressive' bump on David King had 3 days of media attention.

This will be worse. He is the coach of one of the largest clubs. Do I have an issue with it? No.
Will the AFL? 'Yes'. Maybe Brad Scott should remember what he did but this is the AFL.

Will this become a media story for days that then adds to Dimma's long list of 'errors' that will be added to. Yes.
It's at a footy ground with another club's players.

He need to pull his head in. I hope the club are paying attention to his mindset like they did in 2016.
 
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on the angry pills or indirectly giving the senior players some "eye of the tiger" porn?

I don't have a problem with it

well played Dimma
 
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So the break down is
Man yells and swears at footy game?

How often would that happen at a game?
That’s pretty much it. He defended one of his players (verbally) from a dog act by the opposition. Of course our completely putrid media would see that as wrong. If Salty had jumped the fence and punched on with the bloke he’d be held up as an example of coaching behaviour.
 
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I’ll back Dimma every inch of the way. Richmond has tried to be a model citizen of the AFL for a number of years now. Through all the dramas of drugs, Covid, racial vilification etc we have stood tall, been the most successful club in the land and turned the other cheek.

Enough is enough! Not only rival clubs, AFL hierarchy, referees and tribunals but through the mainstream media as well as the usual ratbag collection of footy “journos”.

Even amongst ourselves here on PRE the abuse of players, selectors, coaching and fitness staff in recent weeks has been alarming. “We eat our own” is so true of Richmond.

As Danny Frawley used to say, we need to “stick fat”. It was that attitude which turned the club around from an off-field and on-field joke and got us 3 flags in the last 5 years. It was Dimma that led that charge.

Let’s honour our champions like Lambert, Edwards, Cotchin, Riewoldt and Martin as their careers start to wind down. In the meantime fully support our management team by getting behind the club to finish the season on the best note possible…. proud and united!
 
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I'm really struggling to work out what your point is. You know better? Dimma should resign?

All this second and third guessing, wild speculation, flawed logic, hindsight genius stuff is doing my head in. I reckon Dimma is doing a great job.
Great post TS. No wonder they used to say we ate our own. Despite the success of the past 5 years old habits are resurfacing from our so called supporters. Character assassinations of Dimma and many of the players. We are a fickle lot. Sad really. Petulance at its worst.
 
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